EA killed NMS

peatrick said:

Speed absolutely kills at any/all skill positions.  I went straight degenerate on kids over the long Thanksgiving weekend, running 99 OVR John Madden at TE1.  No DBs in the entire game could keep up.  Streak, bomb.  Streak, bomb.  So many rage quits, i actually felt bad.  It definitely matters, but beyond SPD, so few of these stats actually matter.   Kids going bonkers in comments thread about how "Josh Allen has low TAK/POW, he's gonna get killed in the run game" and other similar terrible takes, OOF. Only the competitive MCS folks should be caring about finding those last few percentage points of efficiencies.

Broadly speaking, the keys for online H2H play remain fairly consistent -- just sit back and allow your opponent to beat themselves.  Unfortunately there is something to be said for everyone who has mentioned how inconsistent gameplay has been this (and most years in recent memory), far too much is left to RNG dice-rolls.  Do my D-linemen shed?  RNG.  However, KO abilities on defense remain our last great hope.  Overall, defense is just far too squishy.

If the goal is to have fun, well EA is coming up way short, as per usual.  NMS is ridiculously difficult most years, but things are more pay to win than they've ever been and show no signs of changing.  I tried to give up and just walk away, yet here i am, constantly crawling back due to the fact that we have zero other NFL simulation options available.

I have been playing MUT a while now and this cover athletes and Mixed up as full pay is ridiculous

Martyr1968 said:

Blah blah blah

i'm just saying if you aren't willing to put proof to any of the card/team comparison's whats the point? of course you are free to say whatever you want but? whats the point? there is no merit, fact, evidence to anything said.

weplaythose said:

Some cards definitely play faster than the card says, but for example my WRs are 91 Terry, 88 Megatron, and 87 waddle, so I have son breakaway speed and just have to dink and dunk down the field, as opposed to my opponent where I usually have to drop 3-4 safties deep every play just to avoid getting bombed. Speed isn't everything but it certainly helps.

my top 3 wr's are the best 3 in the game and get zero seperation most of the time and I'm throwing w/ flacco & set feet lead. we all have to dink & dunk down the field.

I don't like how money focused these last few promos have been either. I might quit if this continues to be the trend. I don't enjoy playing the auction house to get coins.

nymets945 said:

I have been playing MUT a while now and this cover athletes and Mixed up as full pay is ridiculous

Honestly, the Gridiron Guardians promo irked me even more than this blatant Cover Athlete cash-grab nonsense.  The fact they were gating actual Solo Challenges, requiring players to have a specific set of changing roster/requirements in order to even load the game mode was obscene.

EA has basically given up on even pretending this shit isn't pay to win.  No content, just pure casino for kids -- come gamble on packs, that's all the "content" is good for anymore, uggh.

peatrick said:

Speed absolutely kills at any/all skill positions.  I went straight degenerate on kids over the long Thanksgiving weekend, running 99 OVR John Madden at TE1.  No DBs in the entire game could keep up.  Streak, bomb.  Streak, bomb.  So many rage quits, i actually felt bad.  It definitely matters, but beyond SPD, so few of these stats actually matter.   Kids going bonkers in comments thread about how "Josh Allen has low TAK/POW, he's gonna get killed in the run game" and other similar terrible takes, OOF. Only the competitive MCS folks should be caring about finding those last few percentage points of efficiencies.

Broadly speaking, the keys for online H2H play remain fairly consistent -- just sit back and allow your opponent to beat themselves.  Unfortunately there is something to be said for everyone who has mentioned how inconsistent gameplay has been this (and most years in recent memory), far too much is left to RNG dice-rolls.  Do my D-linemen shed?  RNG.  However, KO abilities on defense remain our last great hope.  Overall, defense is just far too squishy.

If the goal is to have fun, well EA is coming up way short, as per usual.  NMS is ridiculously difficult most years, but things are more pay to win than they've ever been and show no signs of changing.  I tried to give up and just walk away, yet here i am, constantly crawling back due to the fact that we have zero other NFL simulation options available.

clearly they glitched a card for a few days or whatever, I mean? the guys post is talking 91 speed vs 93 speed, like a few points, there is nothing really groundbreaking/gamebreaking available as far as speed that he couldn't compete with in my opinion, the john madden card maybe being an exception but that's like an event card, not normal gameplay cards.

and the thing about it is, most people don't try it, they either don't have the money/coin to get the better card and see it doesn't do anything better.

I have gronk & john mackey at TE now, and while they are cool, they aren't really groundbreaking, pitts or other te's would be almost identical, same w/ players at every other position, I've used the top speed guys they are far from groundbreaking or putting anybody in a box.

blamppp said:

clearly they glitched a card for a few days or whatever, I mean? the guys post is talking 91 speed vs 93 speed, like a few points, there is nothing really groundbreaking/gamebreaking available as far as speed that he couldn't compete with in my opinion, the john madden card maybe being an exception but that's like an event card, not normal gameplay cards.

and the thing about it is, most people don't try it, they either don't have the money/coin to get the better card and see it doesn't do anything better.

I have gronk & john mackey at TE now, and while they are cool, they aren't really groundbreaking, pitts or other te's would be almost identical, same w/ players at every other position, I've used the top speed guys they are far from groundbreaking or putting anybody in a box.

In defense of EA (not that they need, nor deserve it), but i'm a big fan of the fact that everyone got Randy Moss, who up until just recently was quite possibly THE best receiver in the game.  93 SPD is no slouch (on 25/50 TT).

A couple weeks back i finally had to retire most of my 87 OVR players as they were definitely feeling a bit old, slow and stale... but i do get and support many of the things you are suggesting here.  My 91 SPD Dalton Kincaid at TE1 is legit.  Pitts remains incredibly viable at 90 OVR, he's one of the few big receivers that seem to get a good juke move.  That new Cris Carter Harvest LTD has a janky ass juke, but hard to complain about my first and only LTD pull in MUT, ever.

DBs matter, but more so from an ability standpoint than anything else.  Now that i've begun to tinker with KO abilities on my DBs, not sure i could ever adjust to anything else.  It's the only way to consistently generate some type of defense.

You can still be NMS, but you’ll get zero joy from opening any packs. LTDs are locked behind paywalls now.

peatrick said:

Honestly, the Gridiron Guardians promo irked me even more than this blatant Cover Athlete cash-grab nonsense.  The fact they were gating actual Solo Challenges, requiring players to have a specific set of changing roster/requirements in order to even load the game mode was obscene.

EA has basically given up on even pretending this shit isn't pay to win.  No content, just pure casino for kids -- come gamble on packs, that's all the "content" is good for anymore, uggh.

That’s a good point I forgot about 

I also am so angry they took out the dailies for each day in the passes so now I have to get 25 ints to finish the harvest pass

nymets945 said:

That’s a good point I forgot about 

I also am so angry they took out the dailies for each day in the passes so now I have to get 25 ints to finish the harvest pass

So many terrible changes, especially surrounding the Comp Field Pass.  The game isn't created for us, it's for the small subset of whales and degenerate gambling addicts that drop hundreds of dollars per week/month on keeping up with content.  EA auto-bans anyone who is using Companion App to generate profits working the auction house.  That's a terrible way to "play" the game, but there's tons of MUT menu champs out there doing exactly this.  Sure it'll save you a few bucks in the long run, but at what point is a person's time more valuable than this madness?  YMMV.

peatrick said:

So many terrible changes, especially surrounding the Comp Field Pass.  The game isn't created for us, it's for the small subset of whales and degenerate gambling addicts that drop hundreds of dollars per week/month on keeping up with content.  EA auto-bans anyone who is using Companion App to generate profits working the auction house.  That's a terrible way to "play" the game, but there's tons of MUT menu champs out there doing exactly this.  Sure it'll save you a few bucks in the long run, but at what point is a person's time more valuable than this madness?  YMMV.

This year seems to have ruined it for me and ur post is my thoughts exactly 

feel like at this time my time isn’t being rewarded I saw the team diamonds challenges on Friday needed to do 29 on all madden max stars to get an 88 yeh no thanks

People who buy content and not just the 50 bucks to get the game should be able to have a better team. Yes they always have but now grinding 40 hours a week screaming NMS wont get you as much anymore and thats how it should be.  You can still grind a good NMS team its just not as easy to keep up, thats all. IMO

nymets945 said:

This year seems to have ruined it for me and ur post is my thoughts exactly 

feel like at this time my time isn’t being rewarded I saw the team diamonds challenges on Friday needed to do 29 on all madden max stars to get an 88 yeh no thanks

I'm the idiot / sucker that will actually spend time grinding through all these Solo Challenges, in hopes of finding all that "content" i seem to be missing out on.  Oh joy a 98 that is 1/25th of what i'd need to actually build Merton Hanks for my theme team.  Aargh.  And the online H2H play is often far too maddening to genuinely enjoy.  I'm not sure why i'm here half the time, simply moving on to something else would be the correct solution, it'd save me a ton of heartache (and temptation from dropping cash into the game), yet here i am.

One would think ponying up $100+ dollars for full, retail Deluxe edition would be more than enough to get a person started and going with MUT, but that feels foolish to even type out at the moment.  I'm fine with buying cosmetics and skins for the kid in Fortnite, but that's a free game.  Subscription services make much more sense in that regard, while Epic Games is constantly improving and expanding upon their Fortnite experience.  Kids still seem to love it, many years into the franchise.  Meanwhile, EA is laughing all the way to the bank.  I'm honestly surprised we have yet to see a monthly subscription service from MUT.  NBA2K received one this fall.

peatrick said:

I'm the idiot / sucker that will actually spend time grinding through all these Solo Challenges, in hopes of finding all that "content" i seem to be missing out on.  Oh joy a 98 that is 1/25th of what i'd need to actually build Merton Hanks for my theme team.  Aargh.  And the online H2H play is often far too maddening to genuinely enjoy.  I'm not sure why i'm here half the time, simply moving on to something else would be the correct solution, it'd save me a ton of heartache (and temptation from dropping cash into the game), yet here i am.

One would think ponying up $100+ dollars for full, retail Deluxe edition would be more than enough to get a person started and going with MUT, but that feels foolish to even type out at the moment.  I'm fine with buying cosmetics and skins for the kid in Fortnite, but that's a free game.  Subscription services make much more sense in that regard, while Epic Games is constantly improving and expanding upon their Fortnite experience.  Kids still seem to love it, many years into the franchise.  Meanwhile, EA is laughing all the way to the bank.  I'm honestly surprised we have yet to see a monthly subscription service from MUT.  NBA2K received one this fall.

Hard for me to give up because I grew up on this game but for me this year I am getting the closest