For 1 AP, I am convinced that Gronk's vanguard ability is one of the best abilities in the game. I sub him in at FB or WR and he averages 10-20 pancakes A GAME.
I've witnessed this man get 3 pancakes in just one play...
And I've even seen him pancake a DB only to wait for him to get back up to pancake him again.
If you aren't running this ability, give it a try and watch him decleat everyone on the field!!
It’s truly insane and has become such an important part of my offense. I can’t believe everybody doesn’t run it.
jwasylenko said:It’s truly insane and has become such an important part of my offense. I can’t believe everybody doesn’t run it.
I run Roddy white and Pickens with 0 AP honorary lineman. TOTY Juscsyzk with honorary lineman... Delanie Walker Metzelaars and Gronk.
The others get as many pancakes as Gronk . Honorary lineman is dominant vs DBs. Vanguard is great but the issue I have it is that it is only on for 5 plays and takes 6 plays to recharge. So it is on less than half the time
I have to admit i gave it some thought but now im going to act on this great tip.Thanks for sharing man.
Gronks been ridiculous with that activating. I think the first time we used him as a Squads team (we do run 65% of the time) and he had 19 damn pancakes.
Martyr1968 said:I run Roddy white and Pickens with 0 AP honorary lineman. TOTY Juscsyzk with honorary lineman... Delanie Walker Metzelaars and Gronk.
The others get as many pancakes as Gronk . Honorary lineman is dominant vs DBs. Vanguard is great but the issue I have it is that it is only on for 5 plays and takes 6 plays to recharge. So it is on less than half the time
This just simply isn't true. Gronk's Vanguard ability is on the entire game for 1 AP. He gets it in a separate bucket from his other X-Factors. I also run Honorary Lineman on Pickens, and while useful, it isn't NEARLY as powerful as Gronk's Vanguard.
jwasylenko said:This just simply isn't true. Gronk's Vanguard ability is on the entire game for 1 AP. He gets it in a separate bucket from his other X-Factors. I also run Honorary Lineman on Pickens, and while useful, it isn't NEARLY as powerful as Gronk's Vanguard.
Just click below and read, dude....charge up - 6 plays. Deactivation-5 plays. Unless your Gronk does something that nobody else's does. Maybe Clint gave you a special one?
Martyr1968 said:Just click below and read, dude....charge up - 6 plays. Deactivation-5 plays. Unless your Gronk does something that nobody else's does. Maybe Clint gave you a special one?
Do you play the game? It seems like you just read ability descriptions and make wildly inaccurate assumptions without testing them. It's on all game man I promise.
jwasylenko said:Do you play the game? It seems like you just read ability descriptions and make wildly inaccurate assumptions without testing them. It's on all game man I promise.
Since 1988. This year - 99 OVR squad. 27 Super Bowls. I have played with guys like Problem. Still keep in contact with MCS Pros.
Do you?
jwasylenko said:Do you play the game? It seems like you just read ability descriptions and make wildly inaccurate assumptions without testing them. It's on all game man I promise.
I have had it deactivate in game during competitive matches. Do you play competitive or solos??
Martyr1968 said:Since 1988. This year - 99 OVR squad. 27 Super Bowls. I have played with guys like Problem. Still keep in contact with MCS Pros.
Do you?
I've been running Gronk since he came out, and I promise that Vanguard is a passive ability, which means that it's on all game, regardless of what the ability description on here says. I feel like I'm going crazy here. Please go play one game with Gronk with Vanguard and come back and let me know. This is such an easy thing to test out.
Martyr1968 said:I have had it deactivate in game during competitive matches. Do you play competitive or solos??
I'm not sure what else to tell you. Can somebody back me up on this?
Marty and Jwasylenko, I'm honestly not sure which one of you is correct. I know what the description on mut.gg states, but there are times I think the ability is active all game. It's also possible it feels that way since I'm not consistently running towards the side Gronk is blocking on every run or specifically looking at Gronk blocking every play when the ability might not be active.
Folks, enough with the resume comparison. Let's get it back to the thread topic at hand.
jwasylenko said:This just simply isn't true. Gronk's Vanguard ability is on the entire game for 1 AP. He gets it in a separate bucket from his other X-Factors. I also run Honorary Lineman on Pickens, and while useful, it isn't NEARLY as powerful as Gronk's Vanguard.
You are talking about the Xfactor vanguard. op is talking about the ability that Is in his first ability bucket. I can assure you it’s active EVERY PLAY ALL GAME