LTDs are out of control

I miss the days of 500k LTDs that were basically rentals. Not sure why prices have spiked to these prices so consistently but we have bum cards like Jaire goin for 1.7 mil? Bosa ain’t even close to being worth 3 mil. I’ll get the same production out of Z’Darius for 2.5 mil cheaper. This is a two part problem: EA needs better packs, and the community needs to get off the crack they’re smokin buying cards for these prices.

I think bringing back TVP would help. That was by far the easiest way to pull an LTD. Now, you're lucky if you get anything better than the lowest ovr available  from training rolls.

Plus there's so many coins on the market the richest players don't really care if they have to pay 2 mil for the best cards

LTDs actually should command higher prices, it creates a healthier MUT market, believe it or not. Not every LTD is going to be a 500k rental, thats just silly

STRIKESHOT1 said:

LTDs actually should command higher prices, it creates a healthier MUT market, believe it or not. Not every LTD is going to be a 500k rental, thats just silly

How is it healthier? I don't think the non LTDs are significantly cheaper now than they were when LTDs were 500k.

Agree with Breakluna

Combo of low odds, especially without TVP's. And just so many coins out there with some of the offers EA drops.

STRIKESHOT1 said:

LTDs actually should command higher prices, it creates a healthier MUT market, believe it or not. Not every LTD is going to be a 500k rental, thats just silly

I don’t disagree, but we probably have different ideas of what higher priced means. If 94’s are in the 300-400k range, I have no issue with an LTD 95 going for 500-600k. But 3 mil!? C’mon now. There’s 1% of the player base that can afford that. Cards that are inaccessible to 99% of the community is not the way.

Breakluna said:

How is it healthier? I don't think the non LTDs are significantly cheaper now than they were when LTDs were 500k.

If LTDs weren't a thing not many people would pull packs thus inflating the other cards that normally would be in abundance due to the people chasing LTDs.

The issue isn't with LTDs  with Redux pulls.  There's not as many opportunities to pull Redux cards thus keeping the prices of some LTDs high

Breakluna said:

How is it healthier? I don't think the non LTDs are significantly cheaper now than they were when LTDs were 500k.

As others have explained, it creates an environment where people want to rip packs, thus  providing more of all the other cards to the market and keeping their prices lower. It also provides a coin sink, which I don't think some people recognize. If there weren't some much more expensive LTDs at any given point,  the prices of all the other stuff will rise to fill that gap. Being frustrated that a cool, good, LTD card is quite expensive is totally justifiable, but it needs to be understood it also SHOULD be expensive.

JuicyJ8787 said:

I don’t disagree, but we probably have different ideas of what higher priced means. If 94’s are in the 300-400k range, I have no issue with an LTD 95 going for 500-600k. But 3 mil!? C’mon now. There’s 1% of the player base that can afford that. Cards that are inaccessible to 99% of the community is not the way.

No, just no. You really think 500-600k is 'higher priced' when they are harder to obtain, a HIGHER OVR, and have a guaranteed quicksell for 350k? C'mon now, you can't have your cake and eat it too. 

At an ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you should expect LTDs to sell for the lowest price of the highest comparable OVR + 350k. If you want to be realistic you should expects LTDs at a minimum to be selling for the average price of the highest comparable OVR +100k per OVR higher +350k, which puts the expectation for 95 LTDs around 750k minimum, which is probably where the worse ones should be.

Should Bosa be 3M  (and just say you're talking about BOSA, because he is the only LTD that is 3M, and of the 17 95 LTDs out, more than half of them are under 1M)? No, probably not, but it is infinitely more realistic to see him at 3M then 500 or 600k.

Ltd. cards should be rare, but when redux cards are around same price for same card that is what is the real head scratcher.

STRIKESHOT1 said:

As others have explained, it creates an environment where people want to rip packs, thus  providing more of all the other cards to the market and keeping their prices lower. It also provides a coin sink, which I don't think some people recognize. If there weren't some much more expensive LTDs at any given point,  the prices of all the other stuff will rise to fill that gap. Being frustrated that a cool, good, LTD card is quite expensive is totally justifiable, but it needs to be understood it also SHOULD be expensive.

That makes sense. I guess I've just always thought most people who buy packs had already made that decision regardless of the quality of the LTDs. I'm just in the camp that thinks cards over 1 mil are ridiculous

Breakluna said:

That makes sense. I guess I've just always thought most people who buy packs had already made that decision regardless of the quality of the LTDs. I'm just in the camp that thinks cards over 1 mil are ridiculous

You're no wrong about it being ridiculous, but probably a necessary evil, if the weren't any LTDs sucking up coins the prices of top OVR set cards would probably be double.

EA controls the market. If they want it that way it must help revenue. Whether or not it’s good for the player base isn’t a consideration.

STRIKESHOT1 said:

No, just no. You really think 500-600k is 'higher priced' when they are harder to obtain, a HIGHER OVR, and have a guaranteed quicksell for 350k? C'mon now, you can't have your cake and eat it too. 

At an ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you should expect LTDs to sell for the lowest price of the highest comparable OVR + 350k. If you want to be realistic you should expects LTDs at a minimum to be selling for the average price of the highest comparable OVR +100k per OVR higher +350k, which puts the expectation for 95 LTDs around 750k minimum, which is probably where the worse ones should be.

Should Bosa be 3M  (and just say you're talking about BOSA, because he is the only LTD that is 3M, and of the 17 95 LTDs out, more than half of them are under 1M)? No, probably not, but it is infinitely more realistic to see him at 3M then 500 or 600k.

This has been the case in every past MUT. We’ve had LTDs sell for under 500k due to good rerolls and that didn’t have the effect on the non LTDs that you’re talking about. The issue is that now LTDs are basically only pullable by weekly money spenders. This is literally the first year that consistently puts out multi-million coin LTDs weekly. This isn’t the first year of LTDs, but this is the most asinine the prices have been for them. Are there more coins in the game this year than prior years? I think not