Red tornado plus four guards =hateful messages

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Anyone else running with Red tornado and four guards.

Just flew through my weekend League with a 10 and 3 record. Mostly running the ball when I see cover 4 or cover 2. Mr Red tornado will be my center for a while and then back up center for my end game. Don't think I'll be using any tackles or centers for the rest of the year. The Boost he gives to guards is just phenomenal. I've always been a good passer so forcing people to stop the run is not my normal plan. Got a few hateful messages for running the ball until they stop it. Is that normal in Mutt?

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I think that if someone can't stop a play, as long as it's not directly the result of an exploited glitch, then keep running that play. It's a skill issue. If they don't want to make the necessary adjustments, then keep running it down their throats. Ignore the messages.

However, I do not condone the use of glitches for instant touchdowns or things like that.

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you can run the ball every play without being a jerk about it. a lot of times I’ll just quit out because my opponent is “manually” chewing the clock AKA letting it drip down to 10-12 seconds before they even pick their Play.

i have no issue stopping the run but I have no interest to do it for 45 minutes-an hour for no reason when H2H rewards are so insignificant. it’s just REALLY not enjoyable to me to watch my opponent run 4 yards per play like theyre playing a solo battle. I won’t send hate messages but I will usually hop on the mic and tell these opponents to take a shower.

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Daddy said:

you can run the ball every play without being a jerk about it. a lot of times I’ll just quit out because my opponent is “manually” chewing the clock AKA letting it drip down to 10-12 seconds before they even pick their Play.

i have no issue stopping the run but I have no interest to do it for 45 minutes-an hour for no reason when H2H rewards are so insignificant. it’s just REALLY not enjoyable to me to watch my opponent run 4 yards per play like theyre playing a solo battle. I won’t send hate messages but I will usually hop on the mic and tell these opponents to take a shower.

Are you me?

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Gent said:

Are you me?

Can’t rule it out

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Seems pretty nice, im poor tho so can't afford him

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Gent said:

Are you me?

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I get that people don't like to play against the run all game long, but why? Is it because it is less likely to get a turnover? Is it because the opponent grinds downfield?

I dunno....I am fine with it. It is football. Fundamental football. I was a Fullback in HS and College. I was the guy on 3rd and short to get the ball and just power through. Or catch a swing pass. Or often block down on a D lineman or take on a LB 1 on 1 on an iso play.

I didn't mind. I liked it mostly. I don't mind running the ball and I don't mind playing against it in Madden. That's just me I guess. I think a lot of people think of Madden as an arcade game while I still try to think of it as a sim.

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Gent said:

Are you me?

Maybe if you are using nasty streak and puller elite on your guards and Love seeing blitzing CBS get pancaked by a Nasty streak pulling guard

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Raydondee said:

Anyone else running with Red tornado and four guards.

Just flew through my weekend League with a 10 and 3 record. Mostly running the ball when I see cover 4 or cover 2. Mr Red tornado will be my center for a while and then back up center for my end game. Don't think I'll be using any tackles or centers for the rest of the year. The Boost he gives to guards is just phenomenal. I've always been a good passer so forcing people to stop the run is not my normal plan. Got a few hateful messages for running the ball until they stop it. Is that normal in Mutt?

How does Agility speed accel on your tackles change your running game that much? Tackles don't really pull....so not sure how that really helps your running game. I can see on traps and other plays where the guards pull how this might be helpful but even then if the D is in the right scheme or playing the run it's not that hard to stop. it doesn't give you +7 to all blocking attributes, just +1 to footwork which really has minimal effect.

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Daddy said:

you can run the ball every play without being a jerk about it. a lot of times I’ll just quit out because my opponent is “manually” chewing the clock AKA letting it drip down to 10-12 seconds before they even pick their Play.

i have no issue stopping the run but I have no interest to do it for 45 minutes-an hour for no reason when H2H rewards are so insignificant. it’s just REALLY not enjoyable to me to watch my opponent run 4 yards per play like theyre playing a solo battle. I won’t send hate messages but I will usually hop on the mic and tell these opponents to take a shower.

No glitch just basic trap power or counter runs to take advantage of my Puller elite nasty streak combo. Crazy how people refuse to come out their dollar or dime set. Added bonus watching blitzing cbs get pancaked by a pulling guard with nasty streak.

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Raydondee said:

No glitch just basic trap power or counter runs to take advantage of my Puller elite nasty streak combo. Crazy how people refuse to come out their dollar or dime set. Added bonus watching blitzing cbs get pancaked by a pulling guard with nasty streak.

If that is your idea of fun, knock yourself out. but I won’t be on the other end of the controller. Total waste of my time

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Raydondee said:

Maybe if you are using nasty streak and puller elite on your guards and Love seeing blitzing CBS get pancaked by a Nasty streak pulling guard

But that's assuming your opponent is blitzing regular CBs. There's a way to shut that down also. DEs in a hard flat, FS like Peppers manned up on the HB so he can take on a pulling guard....etc.

But again, what does that have to do with having this motivator on your tackle spots? They don't pull...that's kinda what I am curios about with your OP

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Martyr1968 said:

How does Agility speed accel on your tackles change your running game that much? Tackles don't really pull....so not sure how that really helps your running game. I can see on traps and other plays where the guards pull how this might be helpful but even then if the D is in the right scheme or playing the run it's not that hard to stop. it doesn't give you +7 to all blocking attributes, just +1 to footwork which really has minimal effect.

i agree on this. It’s a nice bonus but how substantial can it really be? It sounds like the OP is just a good ball runner to begin with.

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Raydondee said:

Maybe if you are using nasty streak and puller elite on your guards and Love seeing blitzing CBS get pancaked by a Nasty streak pulling guard

I don't blitz my DBs. I pretty much only run Nickel normal and Nickel 3-3 and only blitz on very specific downs/situations.

I don't personally have any issue with people running. It's your game and as long as you aren't using some sort of glitch/cheat, do whatever you want. It's your game. I will quit out of a game against a runner if I can't seem to consistently stop them. Thankfully, this isn't Madden 20 where everyone just runs stretch with NFL 100 Dickerson and breaks off 80 yard runs every game, but there are definitely still players in the game who can absolutely gash you on the ground no matter what you seem to do.

Just for me, I don't want to play someone who runs the ball 90% of the time as I find it boring, so I'll gladly give someone a win by quitting out just to get into a game I would have more fun in. But if you're a runner, you do you. Like I said above, as long as you aren't using some sort of glitch that's ruining the game for your opponent, knock yourself out.

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