In conjunction with my thread re: WR routes/abilities, can someone post what each route ability does?

I know what they say they do and how they mostly work.... but can you guys post, in your experience, what type of routes light up which WR route running abilities? I think that would be really helpful to all of us..

For example, short in elite lights up on any route that breaks inside the hash mark within 10 yards of scrimmage so that would be a drag or slant or maybe even a post but only from a slot or tight position.....from the outside , a post would probably end up being mid or deep in elite because by the time an outside receiver gets to the has he's at least 15 yards downfield

I know the meta is all Short in elites, but I know I would like to run off meta and I assume a lot of us would as well so any info you guys could give us from your experience with routes and route running abilities would be great. Thanks

Go on YouTube and look up a YouTube DYL. he has videos of different ability explanations and Shows you how they light up when they light up on what parts of the field and against certain coverages

https://youtube.com/@DylMadden

SouljaSlim91 said:

Go on YouTube and look up a YouTube DYL. he has videos of different ability explanations and Shows you how they light up when they light up on what parts of the field and against certain coverages

Thanks man...I saw those. I don't really go by most of those YTers because they re-create stuff or only upload selective things and then one YTer conflicts with what a different one says the ability does. I'd rather get experiences from the MUT.gg community. Plus, I  know what the abilities do but I don't have time to lab hundreds of different plays , formations, route combos, abilities, etc....so it would be cool to hear what other people have found and I think it would be good for the community, which is a large part of why I made this thread

Here is everything you need to know: https://www.abilities.fyi/abilities/offense

Route tech+short out or short in + short out is the best combo.

lwashburn92 said:

Route tech+short out or short in + short out is the best combo.

yeah route tech is better because it works on any cuts, doesn't have to be within 10 yards. and short out makes it so you can't be pressed.

TheChamp22 said:

yeah route tech is better because it works on any cuts, doesn't have to be within 10 yards. and short out makes it so you can't be pressed.

FYI I had not seen that website before, it actually looks like it uses game code linked to the abilities. Now I have to figure which routes do that and from where.....That's the real issue....Like, does it pay to have an "in elite" ability on a receiver that I know is mostly going to be lined up wide in my scheme? I have tried but I need to motion him so that his break is over the hash.....so seems to me (as we saw in the MCS) if you wanna run SIE you have to run gun tight or a compression set or motion your receiver close to the hash marks...do you run short, mid, or deep IN elites that way?

And this is also why I have RT on all my WRs and on Kelce

Martyr1968 said:

FYI I had not seen that website before, it actually looks like it uses game code linked to the abilities. Now I have to figure which routes do that and from where.....That's the real issue....Like, does it pay to have an "in elite" ability on a receiver that I know is mostly going to be lined up wide in my scheme? I have tried but I need to motion him so that his break is over the hash.....so seems to me (as we saw in the MCS) if you wanna run SIE you have to run gun tight or a compression set or motion your receiver close to the hash marks...do you run short, mid, or deep IN elites that way?

And this is also why I have RT on all my WRs and on Kelce

exactly, short out might be better for you. But that's why I run at lest one route tech so I can have deeper and outside the numbers routes beat man. 

That site shows the exact activation and deactivation conditions which is why I like it, also to note is SIE works to 11 yards, and MIE is 9-21 yards. 

Also if you look at the zone KO's, many have different yardages and conditions than most people think.

I am just trying to figure out what will get my slant to light up from the slot. I have tried slot o matic, route tech and short in. Nothing has worked for me to get the slant to light up vs press coverage.

TheChamp22 said:

Here is everything you need to know: https://www.abilities.fyi/abilities/offense

I’ve never seen this before. Amazing having all the testing info available so we don’t have to figure this out ourselves. Thanks for sharing!

SlowAndSteady said:

I’ve never seen this before. Amazing having all the testing info available so we don’t have to figure this out ourselves. Thanks for sharing!

No problem! It's probably the best ability break down for us MUTheads that I've found.

Martyr1968 said:

FYI I had not seen that website before, it actually looks like it uses game code linked to the abilities. Now I have to figure which routes do that and from where.....That's the real issue....Like, does it pay to have an "in elite" ability on a receiver that I know is mostly going to be lined up wide in my scheme? I have tried but I need to motion him so that his break is over the hash.....so seems to me (as we saw in the MCS) if you wanna run SIE you have to run gun tight or a compression set or motion your receiver close to the hash marks...do you run short, mid, or deep IN elites that way?

And this is also why I have RT on all my WRs and on Kelce

Seem like a pretty good take here.

I like to have SIE on my TE, Slot WR, and Receiving RB. If I can get RT at 0AP-1AP then that’s even better. For a while my WR2 has been running most of my deep routes so I will use DOE or DOE/DIE on him and take a few deep shots per game, but that’s getting harder with more speed at safety on most H2H teams now.

I haven’t used SOE much but it would be best on outside receivers as you said.

I don’t want to motion somebody every play to activate abilities, nor do I run the meta on either side of the ball. I use many different formations and change things up based on what my opponent is doing, so I like having different abilities on the field to give myself more options.

SlowAndSteady said:

Seem like a pretty good take here.

I like to have SIE on my TE, Slot WR, and Receiving RB. If I can get RT at 0AP-1AP then that’s even better. For a while my WR2 has been running most of my deep routes so I will use DOE or DOE/DIE on him and take a few deep shots per game, but that’s getting harder with more speed at safety on most H2H teams now.

I haven’t used SOE much but it would be best on outside receivers as you said.

I don’t want to motion somebody every play to activate abilities, nor do I run the meta on either side of the ball. I use many different formations and change things up based on what my opponent is doing, so I like having different abilities on the field to give myself more options.

I'm the same way, use a mix of all of them. I'm an undercenter bunch x nasty and tight y off player for the most part, and a little bit of ace personnel.

I use SIE and SOE on my solo receiver because I will motion him, route tech on my point man in the bunch, and short in or slot o matic on my outside bunch receiver. SIE on my TE too. I've found this to be the best ability setup for my scheme.