Starting on X-factor vs. 2x 0ap buckets? Thoughts?

JuicyJ8787 said:

I’m fairly intrigued now about this. Is there a list of players with starting on UC? Or passive UC? There’s too many variants in the ability tier thing.

Finally found a proper list, heh: https://www.mut.gg/abilities/universal-coverage-passive/

It's a very short list.  Joey Porter Jr. and the new Jamal Adams, that i'm not sure is even able to be unlocked (yet).  Plus i'm of course using the Anquan Boldin with 2AP Shutdown in my Man scheme.  This will get me pretty close to that goal of having always-on, X-factor abilities all the way around, at least on the outside corners and deep safety help.  Plus Lester Hayes which will cycle, perhaps i'll move him to the Slot with Deion.

kaotikords said:

From my limited memory

The AKAs New class on/off
TTR on/off
JP jr and Boldin passive
Adams gets passive UC and Ava I think

Thanks, as always, coming through with the super clutch info -- this is way better, way more accurate (even from "limited" memory, heh) than my attempts at lists.

peatrick said:

I haven't touched 3-4 basically all year, but i probably should have considering I wanted to use both Fred Warner and Patrick Willis for the longest time, heh.  I've never once gone 25-0 in MUT Champs, hell i'm thrilled if i knock out ten wins in a cycle.  Which console / platform are you on, btw?  I mostly play on PS5, but still have our old PS4 Pro hanging around, but the games are very different, it seems.

I am on ps4, also just getting my YouTube and Twitch up and running. I have used the 3/4 for years and years. But this year they made the 3-4 guys have a huge advantage cause everyone is 99 spd. In previous years you had to sacrifice some speed most of the year, cause you only have 4 DBs, but this year the LBs and DEs are just as fast and you sacrifice nothing lol

peatrick said:

Thanks, as always, coming through with the super clutch info -- this is way better, way more accurate (even from "limited" memory, heh) than my attempts at lists.

I wasn’t going to list off all of them 😂 

but if you search for the program and cb with those youll get most of them

peatrick said:

Finally found a proper list, heh: https://www.mut.gg/abilities/universal-coverage-passive/

It's a very short list.  Joey Porter Jr. and the new Jamal Adams, that i'm not sure is even able to be unlocked (yet).  Plus i'm of course using the Anquan Boldin with 2AP Shutdown in my Man scheme.  This will get me pretty close to that goal of having always-on, X-factor abilities all the way around, at least on the outside corners and deep safety help.  Plus Lester Hayes which will cycle, perhaps i'll move him to the Slot with Deion.

Probably can’t get adams till last week of July since it’s a 4part program

peatrick said:

Finally found a proper list, heh: https://www.mut.gg/abilities/universal-coverage-passive/

It's a very short list.  Joey Porter Jr. and the new Jamal Adams, that i'm not sure is even able to be unlocked (yet).  Plus i'm of course using the Anquan Boldin with 2AP Shutdown in my Man scheme.  This will get me pretty close to that goal of having always-on, X-factor abilities all the way around, at least on the outside corners and deep safety help.  Plus Lester Hayes which will cycle, perhaps i'll move him to the Slot with Deion.

I wouldnt use shutdown for 2 AP it's one step ahead and pick artist and which you can get for one with normal abilities

I agree. 2 always on 0 ap abilities is better. Xfactors aren't as effective as they used to be. Defensive players are a lot better than they were earlier in the year. I play lots of guys who use Flash. I can easily stop Flash by now. Even on the other side of the ball, they don't seem as effective. Idk, that's my opinion..

I was using Hayes universal xfactor but it didn't seem to do anything. Flashes phenom is really good still. I was using 2 unstoppable on my dline but now only one and am picking up most 2 0ap players

Amongisisbest said:

I wouldnt use shutdown for 2 AP it's one step ahead and pick artist and which you can get for one with normal abilities

Who besides Bolden gets osa and pa for 1?

Woodysky said:

Who besides Bolden gets osa and pa for 1?

Oh I thought he was saying he used shutdown on boldin which didn't make sense

Amongisisbest said:

Oh I thought he was saying he used shutdown on boldin which didn't make sense

Oh lol. I was like tell me now I must know haha

Amongisisbest said:

I wouldnt use shutdown for 2 AP it's one step ahead and pick artist and which you can get for one with normal abilities

Correct, this is a super good point and i continue to waffle -- technically, i was using Shutdown + 0AP Deep Route KO, which ultimately costs me 2AP to build anyway, but i've just recently reverted to a 1AP total stack on Boldin, he's the only corner who does not have Pick Artist at the moment.  I reclaimed the AP to use elsewhere on my DBs.

peatrick said:

Correct, this is a super good point and i continue to waffle -- technically, i was using Shutdown + 0AP Deep Route KO, which ultimately costs me 2AP to build anyway, but i've just recently reverted to a 1AP total stack on Boldin, he's the only corner who does not have Pick Artist at the moment.  I reclaimed the AP to use elsewhere on my DBs.

Oh ok I don't use pa and they never drop picks

Amongisisbest said:

Oh ok I don't use pa and they never drop picks

Lucky duck, I get so many batted & swatted balls, even with 99 CTH. Sucks, gotta have PA, IMO.