Cards seem more expensive and money is harder to get?

blamppp said:

if you could get everything in MUT without spending real world money, nobody would care, the cards/mode would hold no value, it would be the same as REGS.

people gamble for the excitement, people go to vegas to shoot dice & play blackjack, the real world money creates value in the experience/game...... if money wasn't on the line nobody would care.

This is wrong, and I can prove it just by using another game: MLB The Show. You earn stubs, you buy packs with only stubs, you can buy stubs, but you definitely don't have to. You earn some of the best cards in the game just by, shockingly, playing the game. You earn some of the best packs in the game just by playing the game with guaranteed diamonds. There's rare cards in packs for sure, but what's cool about MLB is they give you a chance to pull a "topper" in a regular pack, so then you get a shot at that rare card. 

Madden could go to this exact same model and be successful, no doubt in my mind.

Not gonna quote the essays happening in here, but to keep it short….. I think most of us are basically upset that you can’t obtain “champion“ players from solos anymore, and that despite the amount of money EA makes, they’ve actually cut down their dev teams that work on the game. It doesn’t even make sense. More money made should create an improved experience, and it’s gone the opposite way.

I have 2m coins and a 90 ovr team nms soooooo

Bobob said:

I have 2m coins and a 90 ovr team nms soooooo

Do you have your favorite players? Or just whichever free ones you’re given? There’s a huge difference.

Y’all really gonna be mad when there’s no auction house next year…..

Moderator rynoman12 said:

This is wrong, and I can prove it just by using another game: MLB The Show. You earn stubs, you buy packs with only stubs, you can buy stubs, but you definitely don't have to. You earn some of the best cards in the game just by, shockingly, playing the game. You earn some of the best packs in the game just by playing the game with guaranteed diamonds. There's rare cards in packs for sure, but what's cool about MLB is they give you a chance to pull a "topper" in a regular pack, so then you get a shot at that rare card. 

Madden could go to this exact same model and be successful, no doubt in my mind.

okay lets expand on this

whats the player base like? is it bigger than madden? it should definately be bigger than madden if it's better built correct?

your entire statement right here is basically just getting a rare card for very cheap? I feel like you could grind the game enough in madden easily to obtain a million coin player at this point no probley? so you might have a point? just not sure?

I think when things are free or cheap people lose interest? I don't think MLB the show or 2k etc that use some different models are anywhere near as interesting. you could be right though? i'm not saying your wrong? but is there actual player count? popularity numbers to prove it?

This troll guy is delusional. and it's hurting my brain reading his posts.  Imagine thinking that the profits from EA's loot boxes are ending up back in the pockets of the coders and graphic designers.  EA is motivated by one thing, corporate greed.  Any of their casino profits are going to their shareholders and executives.

They famously just slashed their Madden staff not long ago in an attempt to drive down costs for a larger profit margin.  This decision is at the detriment of the awful game we are all playing, testing all of the addicts to see if they will still fork over real money for an even worse product.  To their glee, the loot boxes are still selling.

Defending this behavior, and arguing that this game needs to be pay to win to hold value is a very dangerous and also irrational stance.  Especially if you claim to have been playing this game from the outset when it used to be such a better product.  We all know a better version of this game is possible because we used to play it years ago.

Skol4TheDude said:

Better store deals? Like 1/2 off the game itself... They're trying to get more people in MUT by discounting the title game itself. 

On every  most played list, madden has continued to drop since November. COD, NBA 2k, and now Fortnite have pushed it further and further down the lists.

The game is always half off by this time of the year.  You can usually grab 2k for about 20-30 around this time of the year too. 

Anyone that wanted madden payed full price, they are just trying to get casual's at this time of the year.   And no sports game is going to stay in the top most played after COD drops and fortnite just released is og season and new season in back to back months. 

The point remains, if madden was hurting. You would be seeing things to entice mass spending.  From the looks of it, it has been the most profitable year yet, whether we like it or not. I wouldn't expect much to change now or in the future.

JuicyJ8787 said:

Do you have your favorite players? Or just whichever free ones you’re given? There’s a huge difference.

I have the free vick moss sanders and hendricks as well as the jason kelce and parsons from the field pass but the rest of them are just some players that i like i bought mean joe green 91 and 92 aaron donald at dt i have strahan at le  re is garret for mlb i got 91 boyd from the harvest pass rolb i have 90 parsons and lolb i have 90 hendricks safetys i have 89 reid and 88 holland gonnna  grab fs mike evans tomorrow  corners i have 91 champ bailey 91 barber and 89 fruit punch qb is 91 vick hb is 90 sanders wr 91 mclaurin 90 moss and 90 kupp   fb juzcyk Lt i have 91 trent brown lg 87 dickerson center is jason kelce with the oline boost rg is 89 wyatt teller rt is lincoln kennedy prob gonna upgrade rb once they release a 94 rb kicker is 90 gramatica and punter is 82 scott looking to buy a new rg cb 3  and ss today

blamppp said:

okay lets expand on this

whats the player base like? is it bigger than madden? it should definately be bigger than madden if it's better built correct?

your entire statement right here is basically just getting a rare card for very cheap? I feel like you could grind the game enough in madden easily to obtain a million coin player at this point no probley? so you might have a point? just not sure?

I think when things are free or cheap people lose interest? I don't think MLB the show or 2k etc that use some different models are anywhere near as interesting. you could be right though? i'm not saying your wrong? but is there actual player count? popularity numbers to prove it?

From quick research, MLB The Show sold/downloaded (free with Xbox Gamepass) around 6 million copies. Now not everyone played Diamond Dynasty (their version of Ultimate Team), but let's say 1/3 did. So 2 million. 

No where did I say "rare cards cheap". What I said was rare cards had different ways to be earned. And the rare cards, while extremely good, aren't not needed. You can earn free top end cards just by playing the game. And don't think Madden hasn't taken some things from MLB. The Field Passes were originally introduced in MLB about a year or 2 before MUT added them in. 

The other nice thing about MLB is they have way more legend names, and the variety of players you can use keeps the game fresh. EA has already started recycling legend names this year, which is not a good sign for the months to come.

Nobodyfresh82 said:

The game is always half off by this time of the year.  You can usually grab 2k for about 20-30 around this time of the year too. 

Anyone that wanted madden payed full price, they are just trying to get casual's at this time of the year.   And no sports game is going to stay in the top most played after COD drops and fortnite just released is og season and new season in back to back months. 

The point remains, if madden was hurting. You would be seeing things to entice mass spending.  From the looks of it, it has been the most profitable year yet, whether we like it or not. I wouldn't expect much to change now or in the future.

Then what do you call pack only promos? Got 2 going at once. Seems like a plan to entice spending to me.

At the end of the day, a healthy market is an indicator that things are going well

The market this year have been sluggish. I remember playing on PC back in Madden 19 and the market was bad due to the small playerbase. The PS5 market feels just like the Madden 19 PC market at the moment.

Past maddens this time of the year was the peak for the market. Doesn't seem like it anymore. 

It would always surge during holidays, taper down and come back during ultimate legends. I don't know if that will happen this year, feels like we sliding downhill

SportsPerson94 said:

If you guys are expecting the NCAA game to be different than i think you guys are in for a rude awakening lol. If you don't think EA will try to milk every dollar out of that game then idk what else to tell you

I don’t see how they would make a money mode for the new College Football game but im sure EA will figure that out if they don’t have a free dynasty mode like the old game then I won’t play simple as that. It Was completely offline and done for fun they will probably have some online mode figured but H2H is not my thing I liked the recruiting process players gone after four years you could upload into madden and gameplay against the cpu building a sorry school into a powerhouse. It was offline and fun. They will probably have a career mode or some path to the heisman with online and pay I’m not interested in that

Jhays45 said:

I don’t see how they would make a money mode for the new College Football game but im sure EA will figure that out if they don’t have a free dynasty mode like the old game then I won’t play simple as that. It Was completely offline and done for fun they will probably have some online mode figured but H2H is not my thing I liked the recruiting process players gone after four years you could upload into madden and gameplay against the cpu building a sorry school into a powerhouse. It was offline and fun. They will probably have a career mode or some path to the heisman with online and pay I’m not interested in that

I'm sure they will find a way lol, especially if there is an Ultimate Team mode. They can give us all kinds of college stars and milk it that way