Pass rush glitch???

in years past I run only cause I'm weird but running is useless this year so i decided to just do gun empty formations only and I've settled on empty quads which is a pretty unique formation that you don't see much. Problem is i keep running into ppl who are using a d-line exploit where they just rush up the middle with 4 and line just glitches out and lets them either get a untouched sack or at least up the middle pressure its super fake and until now i thought madden was finally doing a good job on exploits that ruin the game but far as i can tell this makes all empty formations useless  curious what your guys thoughts is. Also heres some clips of someone doing it to me in this one i tried to mike up the middle lineman too see if that helped it doesnt as you see.

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/iasi-desperado/video/183599839

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/iasi-desperado/video/183600364

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/iasi-desperado/video/183600434

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/iasi-desperado/video/183600443

nobody else running into this when trying to run empty?

CarpeDiemCras88 said:

nobody else running into this when trying to run empty?

It was hard to see detail on my phone screen, but I think that's just people taking advantage of buggy ass blocking on interior line, often out of 4-3 Even 6-1 formations; pinch D-line, crash inside and hope you get an auto shed.

It continues to happen to me at random times. The other day my QB got tackled in the backfield before I could even hand off to my RB. The game is such a buggy ass mess. I don't know how I'd term it, but pass rush "glitch" feels a bit misleading. YMMV, sorry I don't have much else to offer here.

Traditional 4 or Slinger 1 release on your QB with SFL + GS abilities will help to get the ball out quick. Be sure to set your blocking adjustments. Maybe double-team a DT and identify the Mike. It's hardly perfect, but might help a bit. Also, no idea why this works, but shifting your O-line to the right often helps with these A-gap pass rushers. 🎄

Looks like they are only bringing four...they are pinching the line and pressing...then...moving the user down over the center to cause they offensive line to account for that person (so the offensive line thinks five are coming)...they are then dropping the user back into coverage which results in one offensive lineman doing nothing...thus...four one on one blocks.  To their credit...they are doing it well, but...it looks to me like "Y" is open almost every time if you throw it quick.  It is tough, but...try ripping that thing into "Y" a couple times...then the user is going to hover over the center and drop back to cover the "Y"...which I think would have your drag underneath open.  It is going to have to be quick. Good luck with it.

peatrick said:

It was hard to see detail on my phone screen, but I think that's just people taking advantage of buggy ass blocking on interior line, often out of 4-3 Even 6-1 formations; pinch D-line, crash inside and hope you get an auto shed.

It continues to happen to me at random times. The other day my QB got tackled in the backfield before I could even hand off to my RB. The game is such a buggy ass mess. I don't know how I'd term it, but pass rush "glitch" feels a bit misleading. YMMV, sorry I don't have much else to offer here.

Traditional 4 or Slinger 1 release on your QB with SFL + GS abilities will help to get the ball out quick. Be sure to set your blocking adjustments. Maybe double-team a DT and identify the Mike. It's hardly perfect, but might help a bit. Also, no idea why this works, but shifting your O-line to the right often helps with these A-gap pass rushers. 🎄

yeah i mean glitch might not be the word but id say exploit clearly thats not how the line should react ppl hovering over the line isnt anything new  its the o line being passive and letting the dline crush the middle "also why running sucks passive o line blocking" and like i said he knew it would do that almost every time it wasnt occasional so id say that breaks empty formations for now. Also if i have to quick pass on a 4 man rush ive already lost so thats not a realistic way to continue but im grateful for any help thanks guys just annoyed was having fun just doing empty set hot routes but this seemingly breaks it.

CarpeDiemCras88 said:

yeah i mean glitch might not be the word but id say exploit clearly thats not how the line should react ppl hovering over the line isnt anything new  its the o line being passive and letting the dline crush the middle "also why running sucks passive o line blocking" and like i said he knew it would do that almost every time it wasnt occasional so id say that breaks empty formations for now. Also if i have to quick pass on a 4 man rush ive already lost so thats not a realistic way to continue but im grateful for any help thanks guys just annoyed was having fun just doing empty set hot routes but this seemingly breaks it.

If you encounter it again you can audible into a form with an rpo bubble. Biggest weakness of 6-1 imo. Sliding right helps too

elmango30 said:

If you encounter it again you can audible into a form with an rpo bubble. Biggest weakness of 6-1 imo. Sliding right helps too

Will try this ty.

elmango30 said:

If you encounter it again you can audible into a form with an rpo bubble. Biggest weakness of 6-1 imo. Sliding right helps too

I absolutely devastated a dude calling Sam Will Blitz out of 4-3 Even 6-1 last evening with Stretch left, Stretch right... i'm still wondering when my low carrying, but 97 SPD Dri Archer will fumble for me, but so far so good.  He's quick enough to get around the edge and break big gains.  I struggled initially against this all out blitz bullshit, but the other option is to hit the HB on a Wheel route, typically goes unguarded, although in rare instances a good player will drop back into Zone coverage and not simply blitz 6 all game, heh.