Defense is useless against gun bunch

SquishySoldier21 said:

Yeah its so pointless because you have to basically do EVERYTHING yourself and like you said half the time the game wont even let you do that. Ive had the "assist" or whatever literally pull me away/noy respond to me trying to do something manually. 

The game feels so lazy and scripted.

To add to your point it's crazy when you put yourself in a position to make a play and don't even get an animation.  It's aggravating when you know your opponents play and about to lurk them just for no animation to happen, or worse you get the swat animation when clearly you wanted a puck. Madden is the only game I legitimately be wanting to square up with ea employees

ramsfanstl4 said:

To add to your point it's crazy when you put yourself in a position to make a play and don't even get an animation.  It's aggravating when you know your opponents play and about to lurk them just for no animation to happen, or worse you get the swat animation when clearly you wanted a puck. Madden is the only game I legitimately be wanting to square up with ea employees

I got killed  by  guy running end arounds all game with a team 3 overall under mine...I'd have 2 guys closing for the receiver to get the ball and instead they would both get vacuumed into the qb after handoff

elmango30 said:

just means that if you have a good defense the game is competitive. The competition on old gen is not good anymore

Old gen competition is still good... you are able to run more than a single defense to win games.

elmango30 said:

just means that if you have a good defense the game is competitive. The competition on old gen is not good anymore

You can't have a good defense in this game unless you use the bullshit you told me and that's not how it should be. I'm not complaining, it's the truth.

Even if you pick the right defense, you get fucked by a guy catching the ball in between 3 defenders, players not reacting to the ball, guys getting the ball thrown through their body, or just a bad animation. The game was obviously designed so casuals and younger people can jump on and not feel lost.

If i'm trying to play actual football, why should i be punished with all the bullshit? If you're in dollar and i go into a power formation, why the hell am i the one that gets beat? I have a few guys with 98 man, why do they get burned all the time on a slant? Why don't my zones react? It's not about me being bad, i'm a decent player but the game needs to be torn down and rebuilt with a legit physics engine and no abilities. EA has destroyed the game enough

SportsPerson94 said:

Yea, the meta shit that i really don't want to deal with. I rather keep losing than use a defense 95% of the community uses

I’d say dollar is a bit better. 6-1 is pretty easy to beat with corners or seam routes. I tend to struggle a bit against a good dollar player.

elmango30 said:

This is my first year on new gen, definitely better competition here

Competition isn't better on new gen, the defense sucks and people can just do whatever they want so it's easy. In MUT i'm usually not a great offensive player, i always leaned on my defense. This year, i'm scoring 30+ a game in my sleep and it's not because i became an offensive guru. The game should be hard and grindy, not arcadey and shootouts everywhere

Greggrig said:

I’d say dollar is a bit better. 6-1 is pretty easy to beat with corners or seam routes. I tend to struggle a bit against a good dollar player.

Should be able to get 10+ yards a carry against dollar but EA doesn't know the sport

SportsPerson94 said:

Should be able to get 10+ yards a carry against dollar but EA doesn't know the sport

Lmao, that’s true. tbh tho i have a really shitty oline since I use a rams TT, so I can’t run against anyone anyways.

SportsPerson94 said:

Yep. And i was always a guy who never really thought it was scripted or predetermined but i'm starting to think it is. Some games, my players and menu moves lightning fast and some games, i can barely do anything and everything is delayed. I'm not sure what else i need to do in order to get stops on defense. Maybe i'll go back down to 90 overall and maybe then i'll be able to win 5-6 in a row like i used to. I upgraded my team and it fucking sucks now

I remember years ago when me and my dad played MUT together in like 16-17 or whatever, we always said whenever we were the better team playing a lower overall it seemed like our players would just totally screw up independently to what we did (since you can obviously only user 1 player) We went down a couple overalls and never had that issue. I remember people would talk about an equalizer effect to make sure that it was somewhat even for the players, even for the players who have a very good team that put hours into this game.

nicv64 said:

I remember years ago when me and my dad played MUT together in like 16-17 or whatever, we always said whenever we were the better team playing a lower overall it seemed like our players would just totally screw up independently to what we did (since you can obviously only user 1 player) We went down a couple overalls and never had that issue. I remember people would talk about an equalizer effect to make sure that it was somewhat even for the players, even for the players who have a very good team that put hours into this game.

I'm starting to believe this is true. My 90 overall team was amazing and played great, my 92 overall team can't move or do shit out there.

SportsPerson94 said:

Yea, the meta shit that i really don't want to deal with. I rather keep losing than use a defense 95% of the community uses

Exactly, this game can be played without spamming the same bullshit over and over again. Unfortunately the defense will either choose to react or they wont react at all, DDA nonsense.

elmango30 said:

well if you won’t use effective defense don’t complain about there being no defense lol

Some people don't like to cheese to feel good about themselves. Probably the best feeling in the game is beating guys like you who think they're madden pros cuz they spam the same shit over and over, doesn't make you good or knowledgeable about football cuz you can copy and paste the "money play" you found on youtube. Meta boy

Cheeseisthecancer said:

Some people don't like to cheese to feel good about themselves. Probably the best feeling in the game is beating guys like you who think they're madden pros cuz they spam the same shit over and over, doesn't make you good or knowledgeable about football cuz you can copy and paste the "money play" you found on youtube. Meta boy

Preach

DiscoLines said:

At this point unless I make a play with my user my defense is getting torched every time against stupid gun bunch… my defense is a 95 overall

User  Press  and push them into each other.