High-ball needs to be back....

Anyone agree high-ball needs to come back?

I've thrown quite a few INTs to 6'7 LBs because high-ball doesn't work.

Why did they take it out?

Oh, that's right....it was one of those "changes" they made to the game to make it seem like they updated it. The same way they made the spin awesome in Madden 22 then changed it to be terrible in Madden 23....ya know, just lazy and easy changes.

Hard to even layer passes over the 6'7 lurk artist LBers. Not realistic. And if you do manage to layer the pass....a Safety usually has a KO.

Why do I even try to play MUT? Its why I play  Madden maybe once a week. Total frustration amd rage and inconsistent game play.

High ball still is a thing tho???

I’ve been high passing all season…

I still high pass too. Gift wrap is a must if you like to use it a lot. BUT I do agree with you. If I use the high ball function along with a tap on the receiver icon and it still doesn’t go high enough to float over carmichaels head then what’s f’n point

There is pretty much no way to get the ball ovet a 6'7 LB in this game. The ball trajectory system is awful and it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. Wide open passed are picked off because they put those players in the game. I've gotten picks that i had no business getting too but it's fucked up

Surgical0ffense said:

Anyone agree high-ball needs to come back?

I've thrown quite a few INTs to 6'7 LBs because high-ball doesn't work.

Why did they take it out?

Oh, that's right....it was one of those "changes" they made to the game to make it seem like they updated it. The same way they made the spin awesome in Madden 22 then changed it to be terrible in Madden 23....ya know, just lazy and easy changes.

Hard to even layer passes over the 6'7 lurk artist LBers. Not realistic. And if you do manage to layer the pass....a Safety usually has a KO.

Why do I even try to play MUT? Its why I play  Madden maybe once a week. Total frustration amd rage and inconsistent game play.

Such an incredibly accurate review. I truly wish you were wrong about any of the above. I want this game to be decent in the worst way, uff. Sadly, I'm just pissing into the wind, wasting my frustrations on this buggy ass shit.

Nothing fair or balanced, let only resembling simulation fatball. Wildly inconsistent, as you so aptly stated. Hell, couldn't imagine trying to compete in MCS... even the highest level was filled with RPO cheese, which actually surprised me. This is all so very unfortunate.

Maybe Elden Ring DLC in June will capture my interest, that was a really good game. Although nothing really hits liek the gridiron, especially fatball at the NFL level. I really dig the team building aspects of Ultimate Team, too bad it's pure pay to win.

Anyway, preach brother. 👊

peatrick said:

Such an incredibly accurate review. I truly wish you were wrong about any of the above. I want this game to be decent in the worst way, uff. Sadly, I'm just pissing into the wind, wasting my frustrations on this buggy ass shit.

Nothing fair or balanced, let only resembling simulation fatball. Wildly inconsistent, as you so aptly stated. Hell, couldn't imagine trying to compete in MCS... even the highest level was filled with RPO cheese, which actually surprised me. This is all so very unfortunate.

Maybe Elden Ring DLC in June will capture my interest, that was a really good game. Although nothing really hits liek the gridiron, especially fatball at the NFL level. I really dig the team building aspects of Ultimate Team, too bad it's pure pay to win.

Anyway, preach brother. 👊

You think you'll last until June? I'm finding myself not giving a shit about this game for the last week or two. Actually fired up CoD which is full of sliding children who fucking wreck me but i enjoy it more than Madden which is strange. I'm gonna get into MLB Diamond Dynasty big this year and MUT will be put on the shelf. I'll play here and there and participate in the upcoming shit promos but that's it.

SportsPerson94 said:

There is pretty much no way to get the ball ovet a 6'7 LB in this game. The ball trajectory system is awful and it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. Wide open passed are picked off because they put those players in the game. I've gotten picks that i had no business getting too but it's fucked up

I continue using 98 SPD 6'8" Parham Jr, naked... no abilities as my primary USER. He's bailed me out SO many times, grabbing balls he has no business catching. Often that are 10-15 yards over his head. Able to cover so much " 3D" space on the field, depth is insanely good even if pursuit angles remain terrible.

The only time I switch out is if I'm playing Angry Runs toter, I need Secure Tackler on my user, so I've been choosing Bo who is nice with boosted 99 COD.

peatrick said:

I continue using 98 SPD 6'8" Parham Jr, naked... no abilities as my primary USER. He's bailed me out SO many times, grabbing balls he has no business catching. Often that are 10-15 yards over his head. Able to cover so much " 3D" space on the field, depth is insanely good even if pursuit angles remain terrible.

The only time I switch out is if I'm playing Angry Runs toter, I need Secure Tackler on my user, so I've been choosing Bo who is nice with boosted 99 COD.

Me too, i'm probably using Parham for the rest of the year with no abilities.

SportsPerson94 said:

You think you'll last until June? I'm finding myself not giving a shit about this game for the last week or two. Actually fired up CoD which is full of sliding children who fucking wreck me but i enjoy it more than Madden which is strange. I'm gonna get into MLB Diamond Dynasty big this year and MUT will be put on the shelf. I'll play here and there and participate in the upcoming shit promos but that's it.

I tried quitting (twice) already, only lasted 4-5 days each time. I've been obsessed about trying to get slightly competitive over the past 12+ months and now I'm struggling to just turn it off and walk away...

So goodness gracious, I certainly hope I'm not still suffering through this until June, but it's only only a couple/few months away and time flies, so I didn't want to say something dumb and then still be chasing Rookie Premiers in July. EA screwed me last year, making us wait weeks before delivering the 33 RPs, I'll be damned if I get suckered into that nonsense again. Curious about Easter and Sugar Rush, but that's about it. Need to temper my expectations. I should know better at this point. Although SB and Combine were premier content.

peatrick said:

I tried quitting (twice) already, only lasted 4-5 days each time. I've been obsessed about trying to get slightly competitive over the past 12+ months and now I'm struggling to just turn it off and walk away...

So goodness gracious, I certainly hope I'm not still suffering through this until June, but it's only only a couple/few months away and time flies, so I didn't want to say something dumb and then still be chasing Rookie Premiers in July. EA screwed me last year, making us wait weeks before delivering the 33 RPs, I'll be damned if I get suckered into that nonsense again. Curious about Easter and Sugar Rush, but that's about it. Need to temper my expectations. I should know better at this point. Although SB and Combine were premier content.

Yea i'll stick around so i don't fall behind but most of my superbowl TT are 98-99 speed so i don't care that much about other cards until we get a new chemistry. Been thinking about selling everyone and just messing around with all BNDs but eh, i still play h2h so fuck that

So...just reading through the responses (some good ones BTW).

And yes, this year the ball trajectory is lower than past years. Even with high-balling. I noticed it right away. And...we all know it isnt smart to throw lob passes in MUT. It will get intercepted or KO'ed, especially at this time of year. However, I am so used to making many of these passes over the middle from high-balling in 23'. The biggest thing is the WR is open....just the low throw trajectory makes it much more susceptible.  Not sure why they changed it.

Surgical0ffense said:

So...just reading through the responses (some good ones BTW).

And yes, this year the ball trajectory is lower than past years. Even with high-balling. I noticed it right away. And...we all know it isnt smart to throw lob passes in MUT. It will get intercepted or KO'ed, especially at this time of year. However, I am so used to making many of these passes over the middle from high-balling in 23'. The biggest thing is the WR is open....just the low throw trajectory makes it much more susceptible.  Not sure why they changed it.

High passes are pretty much where they should be this year, what you want (it seems) is past animations where your WR jump a foot or 2 over the DBs head for a pass headed for the stands . The reason high passes are not OP this year is defensive KO abilities, not because the passes are not high enough

Martyr1968 said:

High passes are pretty much where they should be this year, what you want (it seems) is past animations where your WR jump a foot or 2 over the DBs head for a pass headed for the stands . The reason high passes are not OP this year is defensive KO abilities, not because the passes are not high enough

I very much disagree. Go play Madden 23 and the ball trajectory is naturally higher even without a high-ball.

Even with high-ball in 24, the ball isn't that high. 

Ill literally have a WR 7-10 yards behind a LB in the middle of the field and throw it....and yup....interception. Even with a high-ball. And as I mentioned....no one should lob a short to intermediate pass in MUT, especially at this point in the year. 

Its tough to "layer" passes. More difficult than last year. Much more difficult.

Ill also say I dont know what happened from 23 to 24, but throwing to a WR right when they're making their brea  results in inaccurate and incomplete passes. Like, how did that happen? I dont know. I dont care much, but just making  observations and I dont understand how you make that worse from one year to the next?

Leave the good stuff alone. Make the bad stuff better...

Seems logical.