First NIL killed college football now it's killing Madden

EA is paying WWE players pennies because they won't pay NFL legends. First the trade block. Then auction min/max. Next no auction house. Sin enough, no more NFL players. Just TikTok and Twitch celebrities on your MUT roster

theprofyte said:

EA is paying WWE players pennies because they won't pay NFL legends. First the trade block. Then auction min/max. Next no auction house. Sin enough, no more NFL players. Just TikTok and Twitch celebrities on your MUT roster

Contrary to some posts I have seen here, and yours as well, EA has the right to use most all current and former players image and likeness. As long as the player is in the NFLPA, they have the rights. 

They have a compensation (financial) agreement with with NFLPA for the rights to every single current and most former players (including legends).NFL players are not compensated directly from EA.

So, any player mentioned here that EA "doesn't or may not have the rights to", retired or not, is not accurate and EA can include in the game, so long as they're in the NFLPA. 

They have all players' NIL rights through the NFLPA deal and individual players are not paid directly. 

For example: EA doesn't call Randy Moss and ask him how much money he wants for EA to use his NIL in Madden. They already have those rights through the deal with the NFLPA, which represents every single current and former player in the financial discussions and deal with the EA Sports. 

Basically, the NFLPA is the agent for all of the current and former NFL players for their NIL for Madden as long as they're a member of the NFLPA. 

And just for knowledge, the teams logos and such, goes through the deal with the NFL, not the NFLPA. It's a seperate deal. The coaches also have a seperate deal with EA Sports through the NFLCA (NFL Coaches Association). This is why Bill Belichick isn't in Madden. He is not member of the NFLCA. 

I am mentioning this because EA can make MOST any player a card that they want. Retired or not. Legend or not. Its already paid for in the contract deal with the NFLPA.

FYI: NFLPA is the National Football League Players Association (the players union).

So, when EA isn't introducing new cards or names? Its usually not because they dont have the rights. They just decided not to give that player a card or include them in the game.

I really couldn't tell you the small list of current and former players that are not a part of the NFLPA. Its small. If you see an authentic NFL jersey for a certain player, they're in the NFLPA.

Surgical0ffense said:

Contrary to some posts I have seen here, and yours as well, EA has the right to use most all current and former players image and likeness. As long as the player is in the NFLPA, they have the rights. 

They have a compensation (financial) agreement with with NFLPA for the rights to every single current and most former players (including legends).NFL players are not compensated directly from EA.

So, any player mentioned here that EA "doesn't or may not have the rights to", retired or not, is not accurate and EA can include in the game, so long as they're in the NFLPA. 

They have all players' NIL rights through the NFLPA deal and individual players are not paid directly. 

For example: EA doesn't call Randy Moss and ask him how much money he wants for EA to use his NIL in Madden. They already have those rights through the deal with the NFLPA, which represents every single current and former player in the financial discussions and deal with the EA Sports. 

Basically, the NFLPA is the agent for all of the current and former NFL players for their NIL for Madden as long as they're a member of the NFLPA. 

And just for knowledge, the teams logos and such, goes through the deal with the NFL, not the NFLPA. It's a seperate deal. The coaches also have a seperate deal with EA Sports through the NFLCA (NFL Coaches Association). This is why Bill Belichick isn't in Madden. He is not member of the NFLCA. 

I am mentioning this because EA can make MOST any player a card that they want. Retired or not. Legend or not. Its already paid for in the contract deal with the NFLPA.

FYI: NFLPA is the National Football League Players Association (the players union).

So, when EA isn't introducing new cards or names? Its usually not because they dont have the rights. They just decided not to give that player a card or include them in the game.

I really couldn't tell you the small list of current and former players that are not a part of the NFLPA. Its small. If you see an authentic NFL jersey for a certain player, they're in the NFLPA.

That makes sense! That is how I thought it should work, but most write-ups on here are contrary to what you stated. 

I recently read something about the college players. What I read makes it seem like the college players get a small payment for allowing their likeness in the game. I imagine this is because they are not unionized? I read that Arch Manning was not participating because he wanted to concentrate on football, so I would assume he is not in the college game? 

If what you stated is correct.......where are all the Steelers EA?

Wooooo said:

That makes sense! That is how I thought it should work, but most write-ups on here are contrary to what you stated. 

I recently read something about the college players. What I read makes it seem like the college players get a small payment for allowing their likeness in the game. I imagine this is because they are not unionized? I read that Arch Manning was not participating because he wanted to concentrate on football, so I would assume he is not in the college game? 

If what you stated is correct.......where are all the Steelers EA?

Yes. Ncaa players are not unionized (it will likely happen eventually, couple players from Northwestern were trying)  but they're not right now.

Currently, college players can "opt-in" to be included in the game for $600 in compensation.

Surgical0ffense said:

Contrary to some posts I have seen here, and yours as well, EA has the right to use most all current and former players image and likeness. As long as the player is in the NFLPA, they have the rights. 

They have a compensation (financial) agreement with with NFLPA for the rights to every single current and most former players (including legends).NFL players are not compensated directly from EA.

So, any player mentioned here that EA "doesn't or may not have the rights to", retired or not, is not accurate and EA can include in the game, so long as they're in the NFLPA. 

They have all players' NIL rights through the NFLPA deal and individual players are not paid directly. 

For example: EA doesn't call Randy Moss and ask him how much money he wants for EA to use his NIL in Madden. They already have those rights through the deal with the NFLPA, which represents every single current and former player in the financial discussions and deal with the EA Sports. 

Basically, the NFLPA is the agent for all of the current and former NFL players for their NIL for Madden as long as they're a member of the NFLPA. 

And just for knowledge, the teams logos and such, goes through the deal with the NFL, not the NFLPA. It's a seperate deal. The coaches also have a seperate deal with EA Sports through the NFLCA (NFL Coaches Association). This is why Bill Belichick isn't in Madden. He is not member of the NFLCA. 

I am mentioning this because EA can make MOST any player a card that they want. Retired or not. Legend or not. Its already paid for in the contract deal with the NFLPA.

FYI: NFLPA is the National Football League Players Association (the players union).

So, when EA isn't introducing new cards or names? Its usually not because they dont have the rights. They just decided not to give that player a card or include them in the game.

I really couldn't tell you the small list of current and former players that are not a part of the NFLPA. Its small. If you see an authentic NFL jersey for a certain player, they're in the NFLPA.

Nah, unless something happened in the 2020 CBA, the NFLPA loses the rights to a players likeness after retirement paperwork is filed, as they are no longer involved in league operations. EA needs to make individual deals to retired players, such as Randy Moss. The NBA has a retirement association that includes likeness, the NFL does not. The entire premise of “Tribute cards” is to pump 1 final OP card, as they are losing their rights and have no idea when they will be back in the game. Mutguru mentioned this back when he worked at EA over 6 years ago. It’s the main reason EA lags behind 2k for past player additions, the NBA makes it easier

Steelers did get TJ Watt, Plaxico Burress, JPJ, and just  very recently a Minkah.

I'm guessing a Mean Joe UL? An updated Troy P?

ripglide said:

Nah, unless something happened in the 2020 CBA, the NFLPA loses the rights to a players likeness after retirement paperwork is filed, as they are no longer involved in league operations. EA needs to make individual deals to retired players, such as Randy Moss. The NBA has a retirement association that includes likeness, the NFL does not. The entire premise of “Tribute cards” is to pump 1 final OP card, as they are losing their rights and have no idea when they will be back in the game. Mutguru mentioned this back when he worked at EA over 6 years ago. It’s the main reason EA lags behind 2k for past player additions, the NBA makes it easier

Yeah bro isn’t correct at all. i don’t understand why people come in here pretending to be experts they know nothing about. As soon as he said NFLPA and retired players, I knew it was trash. 

Retired players NIL for the NFL is managed through the Football Greats Alliance FGA as a whole. Players absolutely can opt-in and opt-out to various licensing ventures.

ripglide said:

Nah, unless something happened in the 2020 CBA, the NFLPA loses the rights to a players likeness after retirement paperwork is filed, as they are no longer involved in league operations. EA needs to make individual deals to retired players, such as Randy Moss. The NBA has a retirement association that includes likeness, the NFL does not. The entire premise of “Tribute cards” is to pump 1 final OP card, as they are losing their rights and have no idea when they will be back in the game. Mutguru mentioned this back when he worked at EA over 6 years ago. It’s the main reason EA lags behind 2k for past player additions, the NBA makes it easier

Actaully, it seems you're correct. I stand corrected on the retired players.

After further research, current NFL players can also opt-out of NIL deals that have been agreed upon by EA and the NFLPA, while still being a member of the NFLPA. Wondering if retired players can opt-in through the NFLPA after retirement? There is also the PFRA (Pro Football Retired Association) , but it does not show having EA as a licensing partner.

My mistake on the retired players' portion.

gbwisc said:

Yeah bro isn’t correct at all. i don’t understand why people come in here pretending to be experts they know nothing about. As soon as he said NFLPA and retired players, I knew it was trash. 

Retired players NIL for the NFL is managed through the Football Greats Alliance FGA as a whole. Players absolutely can opt-in and opt-out to various licensing ventures.

Did I say I was an expert on the matter?

I knew someone was handling it as a whole and no way EA was dealing with each individual retired player. Never claimed to be an expert on this specific matter.  .

Just found IMG Licensing handles it, which manages FGA.

Eat too much cheese last night, buddy? Rough morning on the toilet for ya?

Instead of criticizing a post in a derogatory manner, how about just adding to the topic in a beneficial way....like your second paragraph? 

BTW, try using better words instead  of "bro"...

Sounds rather juvenile and uneducated. Just a tip if you ever wanna get anywhere in life. And some properly placed comma's can also help.

There is a simple web extension to help:

https://www.grammarly.com/

Future mut will only have legends that sign off on their nil for free and a bunch of idiots from mtv Nickelodeon and “stars” from other countries you’ve never heard of starring as your mut lineup

They have to still pay retired players Dez Bryant and Terrell Owens both said they are not in the game because they were offered 10k for their likeness and that it was way too low. Same thing Cam Newton mentioned as well. Ea has to have a deal with retired players individually if there are not parr of some retirement  associatio.

How did NIL ruin college football? Would you prefer the same 5 schools buying championships under the table?

SosaChamberlain said:

How did NIL ruin college football? Would you prefer the same 5 schools buying championships under the table?

The rollout was botched by happening immediately upon a Supreme Court ruling rather than being decided with all the ADs at the table the rules and punishments for breaking said rules were not agreed upon to increase and perpetuate parity such as an NIL team cap and anti poaching rules in the sport so now poaching is just going to happen in the open at the expense of smaller schools who luck into signing a talented player who falls through the cracks of the big boys recruiting ventures. A player plays too well at a smaller school and they have to offer him crazy amounts of money to stay and they can’t compete with the same 5 schools you mentioned and the rich schools who did the same stuff worse as there is no cap and tampering goes unpunished. The sport has lost what made it better than the NFL.

ripglide said:

Nah, unless something happened in the 2020 CBA, the NFLPA loses the rights to a players likeness after retirement paperwork is filed, as they are no longer involved in league operations. EA needs to make individual deals to retired players, such as Randy Moss. The NBA has a retirement association that includes likeness, the NFL does not. The entire premise of “Tribute cards” is to pump 1 final OP card, as they are losing their rights and have no idea when they will be back in the game. Mutguru mentioned this back when he worked at EA over 6 years ago. It’s the main reason EA lags behind 2k for past player additions, the NBA makes it easier

I thought that if a player plays for a specified amount of time (3 years?), they become eligible for a pension? Would this pension cause continued ties with the league?