Good morning, all!
Between the stock same-NFL-team attribute boosts, the Combine Motivator boosts, and the new Tier 4 Theme Team All-Star boosts, offensive linemen from the same team can add as much as +14 to SPD. Has anyone tried assembling an extreme-speed offensive line and had any results to speak of?
phatalerror said:Good morning, all!
Between the stock same-NFL-team attribute boosts, the Combine Motivator boosts, and the new Tier 4 Theme Team All-Star boosts, offensive linemen from the same team can add as much as +14 to SPD. Has anyone tried assembling an extreme-speed offensive line and had any results to speak of?
I didn't do this purposely, but I did have the 3/3 OL combine boost + TT boost. Having the OL get upfield was nice, but honestly they got in the way a decent amount so it wasn't glitchy as I hoped. If you do a ton of pulling it may be worth it tho.
emaluski said:I didn't do this purposely, but I did have the 3/3 OL combine boost + TT boost. Having the OL get upfield was nice, but honestly they got in the way a decent amount so it wasn't glitchy as I hoped. If you do a ton of pulling it may be worth it tho.
I think it's worse if your guards are pulling. They definitely get in the way.
Wiggg said:I think it's worse if your guards are pulling. They definitely get in the way.
The "blocking" in this game is an absolute joke. Im no programmer but it cant be that hard to see what youre doing does t work at all. Cant you just make the OL go put a hat on a hat? Hell, im not even worried about them blocking actually. Just tell them to get out of my way. They are ALWAYS in the way. I swear it really feels like they go out of their way/ peel back and take sudden unnecessary actions at all times to stop you from gainjng more than a couple yarda (sometimes you'll even LOSE yards) on a play thay EASILY should have been paydirt.
phatalerror said:Good morning, all!
Between the stock same-NFL-team attribute boosts, the Combine Motivator boosts, and the new Tier 4 Theme Team All-Star boosts, offensive linemen from the same team can add as much as +14 to SPD. Has anyone tried assembling an extreme-speed offensive line and had any results to speak of?
My oline is minimum 92/94 speed/acceleration. Huge bonus for runners.
SquishySoldier21 said:The "blocking" in this game is an absolute joke. Im no programmer but it cant be that hard to see what youre doing does t work at all. Cant you just make the OL go put a hat on a hat? Hell, im not even worried about them blocking actually. Just tell them to get out of my way. They are ALWAYS in the way. I swear it really feels like they go out of their way/ peel back and take sudden unnecessary actions at all times to stop you from gainjng more than a couple yarda (sometimes you'll even LOSE yards) on a play thay EASILY should have been paydirt.
“I’m no programmer but can’t you just make the AI automatically make the same decisions as NFL offensive linemen?” is wild. Programming is hard dude, but EA could absolutely improve their game
elmango30 said:“I’m no programmer but can’t you just make the AI automatically make the same decisions as NFL offensive linemen?” is wild. Programming is hard dude, but EA could absolutely improve their game
I used to make many apologies in EA’s behalf due to the complexities of football logic, but AI‘s ability to observe and evaluate could’ve helped this game move farther along.
phatalerror said:I used to make many apologies in EA’s behalf due to the complexities of football logic, but AI‘s ability to observe and evaluate could’ve helped this game move farther along.
I want madden to force players to be the ones to observe and evaluate
elmango30 said:I want madden to force players to be the ones to observe and evaluate
Whats funny is you often pop up and wether you mean to or not you can come off kind off confrontational on these topics but now im puzzled. You usually seem to be an EA apologist/i rarely agree with your positions in these debates yet now you say thus and it sounds like we want the same thing. Less prescripted rng bs. But the other day you came in a thread kinda sounding like you were defending it.
As for programming being hard, every job is hard. Youre paid to do your job. Not make excuses.Im a disabled combat veteran so yeah, sorry. I dont expect extra sympathy or special entitlement but im certainly not giving it to the overpaid overopinionated people comingninto the workforce rhese days. ESPECIALLY in a tech related field. Cry me a river.
elmango30 said:I want madden to force players to be the ones to observe and evaluate
If I tell my offensive line to ID the Mike and I get it right, the dude needs to be picked up. I’m not even asking for every blitz pickup to be successful, because random mistakes happen. The dude shouldn’t be missed on every play, again and again.
I’m not looking for a game that plays itself. Until there is a control interface that allows a user to simultaneously control the actions of 11 players, AI needs to do some lifting.
Where AI can help *programmers* is to identify abusive, repeatable tactics that should be corrected with better coding. With hundreds or thousands of snaps played by millions of players, there are literally a billion examples to comb through, and it’s not hard to pick out plays that ended in a second, to evaluate them, and to make the needed corrections to the coding.
SquishySoldier21 said:Whats funny is you often pop up and wether you mean to or not you can come off kind off confrontational on these topics but now im puzzled. You usually seem to be an EA apologist/i rarely agree with your positions in these debates yet now you say thus and it sounds like we want the same thing. Less prescripted rng bs. But the other day you came in a thread kinda sounding like you were defending it.
As for programming being hard, every job is hard. Youre paid to do your job. Not make excuses.Im a disabled combat veteran so yeah, sorry. I dont expect extra sympathy or special entitlement but im certainly not giving it to the overpaid overopinionated people comingninto the workforce rhese days. ESPECIALLY in a tech related field. Cry me a river.
first off, and most importantly, thank you for your service. Which branch?
second, I struggle to say anyone at lower levels of a company is overpaid, with how much owners and ceos make. Which prescription did you feel like I was defending?
The main ones I’ll defend are that if the two players do the same thing I want the same thing to happen if that makes sense. If somebody mikes the free rusher, they should get blocked, but if they don’t adjust anything it shouldn’t. For example, in send 6 6-1 I think you should be able to block a RB, slide right and ID the left linebacker and get a couple seconds in the pocket. If you block both, you should get more time since you get a double team. Rn, those blitzes are much less consistently blocked, but not impossible
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