Been trying to figure out which is better, I have all of the best defensive players in the game. Even with all of the man beaters out there with built in Xfactors they all seem to struggle against the bottle neck. What DBs have you had the most success running bottle neck META with(and defensive formation), Best for zone META(best formations), and if you’re running a hybrid of Zone and bottle neck who’s your favorite players to run?
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Thats kinda what I been doing lately,
where is your ap being spent? And what x-factors you running?
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JoSmoov said:Been trying to figure out which is better, I have all of the best defensive players in the game. Even with all of the man beaters out there with built in Xfactors they all seem to struggle against the bottle neck. What DBs have you had the most success running bottle neck META with(and defensive formation), Best for zone META(best formations), and if you’re running a hybrid of Zone and bottle neck who’s your favorite players to run?
Unless you are consistently playing extremely weak competition, almost everyone has receivers who can insta-win against Bottleneck Man Press attempts this late in the year. Even when Man Press attempts are successful, it only takes a single receiver to burn his coverage to give up huge gains. Man (for me, at least) has been wildly inconsistent this year. There was maybe a ~2 week period where i ran almost exclusively Bottleneck Man Press, but lately I have taken Bottleneck off Randy Moss (CB) in favor of his Tackle Supreme ability. I'm back to primarily running Zone coverage schemes, but a competent opponent will devour both types if you give them sufficient time in the pocket.
I've found BNOG, specifically Tampa 2 (hrmm, apparently it's actually just called Cover 2, my bad) to be extremely versatile. From that single formation, I can drop 9 into coverage if i want (via double mabel with both DEs having Pick Artist & Lurker) or rush six. It does a fantastic job against most RPOs, often putting you in position for a clutch pick-six, while also doing a decent job against the run with four down linemen.
I've been happily using the Raiders defensive playbook, as it's got a nice mix of everything we'd want. No Dollar, however the "Dime" is essentially equivalent to what we'd come to know and expect from Dollar.
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peatrick said:Unless you are consistently playing extremely weak competition, almost everyone has receivers who can insta-win against Bottleneck Man Press attempts this late in the year. Even when Man Press attempts are successful, it only takes a single receiver to burn his coverage to give up huge gains. Man (for me, at least) has been wildly inconsistent this year. There was maybe a ~2 week period where i ran almost exclusively Bottleneck Man Press, but lately I have taken Bottleneck off Randy Moss (CB) in favor of his Tackle Supreme ability. I'm back to primarily running Zone coverage schemes, but a competent opponent will devour both types if you give them sufficient time in the pocket.
I've found BNOG, specifically Tampa 2 (hrmm, apparently it's actually just called Cover 2, my bad) to be extremely versatile. From that single formation, I can drop 9 into coverage if i want (via double mabel with both DEs having Pick Artist & Lurker) or rush six. It does a fantastic job against most RPOs, often putting you in position for a clutch pick-six, while also doing a decent job against the run with four down linemen.
I've been happily using the Raiders defensive playbook, as it's got a nice mix of everything we'd want. No Dollar, however the "Dime" is essentially equivalent to what we'd come to know and expect from Dollar.
I’ve recently went stray from BNOG because I just couldn’t stop the run. I’ve just been sending 5 and praying and it works more often than not, sometimes I’ll mess with my safeties and put the in A deep half or a purple and put one of my MLB in purple or a middle read. All depends but a lot of the people I face constantly struggle against the bottle neck. Even with the bottle neck beaters. I got tired of always adjusting my zone drops and still Getting beat in zone
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JoSmoov said:I’ve recently went stray from BNOG because I just couldn’t stop the run. I’ve just been sending 5 and praying and it works more often than not, sometimes I’ll mess with my safeties and put the in A deep half or a purple and put one of my MLB in purple or a middle read. All depends but a lot of the people I face constantly struggle against the bottle neck. Even with the bottle neck beaters. I got tired of always adjusting my zone drops and still Getting beat in zone
Strange how we've had such opposite experiences. Although, i have run stopping abilities (both Inside Stuff & No Outsiders) on both my Strong Safeties (Ryan Neal & Darren Woodson). Unsure if that is the difference maker here. Do you have (x4) Run Stuffer across your entire D-line? I've been a big fan of this defense, because it's basically set it and forget it (when using 30 yard Flats, 5 yard Curl Flats & 15-20 yard Hooks). Obviously the roll-out passing glitchers will still find a way to hit those sideline breaking routes that are nearly impossible to defend, but it does a fairly decent job at most everything else. Heck, i'm constantly amazed at how often i'm able to get pressure on the QB when only rushing 2. Happens way more than it probably should.
My other favorite play/formation on defense is probably this 3-3 Odd (Cover 3 Cloud, flipped), which i stole from Henry. It has a ridiculously fast A-gap blitzer from SUBLB2, where if the opponent doesn't adjust their blocking scheme, your guy will get to the QB, essentially untouched in ~2 seconds, or less. I put Aidan into the DE position and drop him back into coverage and i get a TON of picks from this, while rushing four. Hutch mostly drops into 20 yard Seams & 10-20 yard Hook Curls. Shade down (and outside) while putting the DE into a Hard Flat if you face a lot of RPO cheese.
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