They are exploits. Make no mistake about it. Its exploiting the mechanics of the game.
A dollar 3 man front with 7 to 8 defensive backs that blows up almost every run, because you run a scripted amount of defensive hot routes, is an exploit.
They are exploits. Make no mistake about it. Its exploiting the mechanics of the game.
A dollar 3 man front with 7 to 8 defensive backs that blows up almost every run, because you run a scripted amount of defensive hot routes, is an exploit.
nitmatrix said:didnt insult you, just have played enough of these guys to know that normal glitches dont work.
i dont consider finding effective route combos and setting up confusing zones and blitzes to be glitching, but i am in the minority here
also, are not is
Ya what some people consider glitching is really just meta gameplay. The most effective blitzes, and route combos out of bunch is not glitching, audibling from shotgun down to singleback to get a glitched pistol formation where your qb then waltzes down the field until he contacts a defender and gets a 5 yard penalty 3x in a row to force an opponent into quitting for excessive grieving is glitching. Some people just don't know the difference. MCS players actually did us a favor exposing the glitches and posting them all on twitter/X, not so people could run them but to expose them to a mass of people including EA in order to get them fixed.
jimshredder said:Are you quitting?
if this is what causes you to quit, you probably shouldn't be online. I'll only quit once I go down 3 scores.
touchdownking said:Yeah idk if I agree cuz when I watch MCS they never be using glitches. They’re just better than us🤷🏼♂️😭. But I’ve never played a top 100 player…
Constantly flipping and reflipping your play in an attempt to exploit EA's bad coding on player / zone matchups... is "glitching" in my opinion.
Most of the MCS players do this.
EA should implement some sort of fatigue penalty for repeated flippers.
TheNickSix said:Ya what some people consider glitching is really just meta gameplay. The most effective blitzes, and route combos out of bunch is not glitching, audibling from shotgun down to singleback to get a glitched pistol formation where your qb then waltzes down the field until he contacts a defender and gets a 5 yard penalty 3x in a row to force an opponent into quitting for excessive grieving is glitching. Some people just don't know the difference. MCS players actually did us a favor exposing the glitches and posting them all on twitter/X, not so people could run them but to expose them to a mass of people including EA in order to get them fixed.
They may not be glitches, but they are exploits. And the fact that the "meta gameplay" is to exploit the game's mechanics, is what rubs people the wrong way.
Natej8888 said:They may not be glitches, but they are exploits. And the fact that the "meta gameplay" is to exploit the game's mechanics, is what rubs people the wrong way.
Where I came from with competitive card games, the "meta" represented the dominant builds at a given time in the game's evolution. Decks came into vogue, and passed off the scene once half of the scene was using the deck, only to fall to the half of the decks that had been designed to counter them.
I've always understood that the "meta" in Madden is similar: If Vanguard is overpowered, more people use it, and so defenses are obligated to start equipping Out My Way and heavier linebackers with better run-stop attributes.
Meta is distinct from exploits/cheese/fill-in-the-blank adjectives that represent non-football tactics that yield outsized results and cannot be countered by schemes and tactics that would work effectively in the NFL. It's annoying to me to have people here resort to Substitution of Terms to spin my objections into meaning something I never said. Run a zig. I don't mind that you ran a zig. But if you keep throwing to the guy running a zig while my safety is lost somewhere between the hash marks, maybe it's not just a route concept that's winning you games against the game's Top 10,000.
Natej8888 said:They may not be glitches, but they are exploits. And the fact that the "meta gameplay" is to exploit the game's mechanics, is what rubs people the wrong way.
every game literally has a meta, so idk why people wanna get mad about madden. When you go play 2k how many people go straight to youtube for the meta build on their my character? how many people use the same load out in cod. people just need to get over themselves, play the game at a disadvantage if you want that is on you not your opponent. If someone wants to run only bunch or ony trips Te and their cookin tip your hat and learn defense. People complain so much I come on here to complain about y'all complaining.
Top 100 is currently about who can play the most games not so much how nice you are.
Im surprised how positive the comments on this thread are. No, it isnt cheese to throw a zig, shade your hooks out and under please (or just lurk it). It also isnt cheese to get dollar ran on you (ID the widest corner on the field), mug is bs and everyone under the sun agrees with that. The game is poorly coded, we all know that. It doesn't make someone a bad person if they do things that work, it doesnt mean theyre bad (theyd probably smoke you anyways if there was a patch, theres a reason the same guys are at the top year in and year out). People put hours and hours into the game and play at a very high level with a lot of skill. Just because you don't understand it doesnt make it cheese, or evil, or anything of the sort. Its a game. Games have quirks. Learn how to deal with them.
The higher you get in that game mode, the higher the cheese and cheats, until eventually you get the players that run glitches from kickoff to the final whistle. So yeah, if you see that Ed Reed you either back out or stay in and take notes cuz you’ll be in exploit class.
Ducati0307 said:Constantly flipping and reflipping your play in an attempt to exploit EA's bad coding on player / zone matchups... is "glitching" in my opinion.
Most of the MCS players do this.
EA should implement some sort of fatigue penalty for repeated flippers.
Oh okay I didn’t know about that. Yeah thats definitely cheesing a bit. But also they would all beat me 100-0 so ima just keep my mouth shut 👍
TheNickSix said:every game literally has a meta, so idk why people wanna get mad about madden. When you go play 2k how many people go straight to youtube for the meta build on their my character? how many people use the same load out in cod. people just need to get over themselves, play the game at a disadvantage if you want that is on you not your opponent. If someone wants to run only bunch or ony trips Te and their cookin tip your hat and learn defense. People complain so much I come on here to complain about y'all complaining.
The difference is in call of duty, it's your stick skills during the game. In Madden so much of it is the plays you pick and pre play adjustments. And they aren't adjustments made as a reaction to what you are doing.
Following a step by step how to guide isn't a skill gap.
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Natej8888 said:The difference is in call of duty, it's your stick skills during the game. In Madden so much of it is the plays you pick and pre play adjustments. And they aren't adjustments made as a reaction to what you are doing.
Following a step by step how to guide isn't a skill gap.
come on now man there is plenty of strategy involved in call of duty other than run, duck, and shoot
You serious?
Same difference when people know a map so well they expose spots/situations
and a lot of warfare is reacting to what your opponent is doing
Natej8888 said:The difference is in call of duty, it's your stick skills during the game. In Madden so much of it is the plays you pick and pre play adjustments. And they aren't adjustments made as a reaction to what you are doing.
Following a step by step how to guide isn't a skill gap.
skill gap, and what really separates people in madden is on offense, not missing open receivers. especially in smaller windows in the redzone.
defensively, its formation/route recognition and knowing what your opponent is gonna do before they do it and then effectively using switch stick.
There is no “how to guide” for these things.
I see your cod argument and agree some, madden does take some prerequisit knowledge of the games defects to be good so its not all stick skill, but there’s still a lot of skill involved. especially with usering on defense