xXLethalDose89Xx said:I agree with Gerald McCoy. At 88 he boosted to 89 with chemistry and is an absolute beast on the interior. I tried the 90 ovr Wilfork and 88 ove Williams. Neither were as effective as McCoy and Suh maxxed out.
Yo, those two as interior lineman are straight DAWGS! I am so glad I was able to max both of them out, chems and all!
Entheogenuser420 said:Mike Tolbert has blocked very well in the run and pass game and has been consistent in short yardage gain by either running with him or passing him the ball.
i made him my rb1 and with 90 speed and 95 acceleration, he’s become my biggest offensive threat. His weight being 250 makes him so fun to run with. Broke a stupid amount of tackles in the few games I played earlier.
I'm running MF Jaylon Johnson, AKA Prime Time (non-LTD), MF Darrelle Revis, and MF Carlton Davis III at CB, and with strategy items and MF chems, all four have +90 ZCV and +90 MCV. The same strat items are also elevating Tyler Nubin to +90 ZCV and Ja'ayir Brown to +90 ZCV and +90 MCV.
Upshot: Why run Vincent when I can run Tillman at SUBLB on a three-team theme team?
Kevin Mawae took the spot vacated by Jeff Saturday.
avSFC said:i made him my rb1 and with 90 speed and 95 acceleration, he’s become my biggest offensive threat. His weight being 250 makes him so fun to run with. Broke a stupid amount of tackles in the few games I played earlier.
bruh that’s what I’m saying mayne he breaks tackles and for being 250 he moves like a gazelle and i sont even know how but he is reliable in the passing game there have been a couple drives where he was the only guy getting open agg catching on center field lmao
Entheogenuser420 said:bruh that’s what I’m saying mayne he breaks tackles and for being 250 he moves like a gazelle and i sont even know how but he is reliable in the passing game there have been a couple drives where he was the only guy getting open agg catching on center field lmao
I know defense is pretty much fucked but still anybody should not be agg catched On by Mike Tolbert lmaop
doncoyleone said:Elam without a doubt. None of those other players should still be starting on any team. All of the breakout players for instance are like 100k and there are a number of great priced, better alternatives:
Witten - Kincaid BO
Vincent - J Williams BO
McCoy - Q Williams BO
Tillman - Brown BO
Te'o - Andersen TOTW
Saturday - any number of BND linemen
Tolbert - Alstott S1 or Okoye S3
Lmao my 91 Tillman is a beast and a pick machine standing at only 5'11 and definitely a starter on my team
Entheogenuser420 said:I know defense is pretty much fucked but still anybody should not be agg catched On by Mike Tolbert lmaop
That’s wild because I had a play where I had him on a wheel route, threw it 50 yards with Levis and Tolbert agg catches it over my opponents Sean Taylor for a TD.
A damn fullback. Was so surprised lmao
avSFC said:That’s wild because I had a play where I had him on a wheel route, threw it 50 yards with Levis and Tolbert agg catches it over my opponents Sean Taylor for a TD.
A damn fullback. Was so surprised lmao
🤣🤣 well shit that’s madden for ya lol but what was surprising to me was that it was tim Tebow who threw it🤣🤣 you know back before they timed mid tier qb accuracy lmao
lakeofthewoods said:With even just one TT Vincent hits...
90+ SPD
90+ ACC
90+ COD
90+ MCV
90+ ZCV6'1" and one of the few corners to get 2AP PA Ability with 85 CTH and the Aggressive Trait.
He can play outside or in the slot and has a PRS of 87.
The only other corner to have all of those, Aqib Talib.
Lmao I mean you’re wrong but sounds good. Revis hits it along with +90 prc, and awarenes. Carlton Davis hits 6’2 90 speed, 90 acc, 90 zone, 90 man, 90 press. A.J. Terrell hits 91 speed, 91 acceleration, 90 prc, 91 mcv, 90 zone 91 prs, 90 agi, 90 awr, 90 cod, 90 zcv with no theme team even.
d2xmut said:He is gonna be a BEAST at 90 overall. Salute!
He can get up to 91
willbalton said:Lmao I mean you’re wrong but sounds good. Revis hits it along with +90 prc, and awarenes. Carlton Davis hits 6’2 90 speed, 90 acc, 90 zone, 90 man, 90 press. A.J. Terrell hits 91 speed, 91 acceleration, 90 prc, 91 mcv, 90 zone 91 prs, 90 agi, 90 awr, 90 cod, 90 zcv with no theme team even.
Talib and D Ward are the only other two cornerbacks that hit those thresholds of 90 for those ratings and PRS of 80+ for players with Tier 4 TT.
Most won't receive Talib but either way, he's CB1.
At 5'11" and only 74 CTH, D Ward does not however get the 2 AP PA ability.
Davis does not hit 90 ZCV threshold. He also does not get the 2AP PA ability. Does not have the Play Ball in Air - Aggressive, trait.
Terrell Jr also does not hit 90 ZCV. He does however get the 2AP PA ability. Does have the Play Ball in Air - Aggressive, trait.
Revis at 5'11" doesn't hit 90 ZCV or 90 ACC thresholds. He does however get the 2 AP PA ability. Does have the Play Ball in Air - Aggressive, trait.
If you read the thread I also mention that I have Terrell Jr and Vincent with PA playing on the outside and Revis at the slot. Ward is my CB4.
The statement however that Vincent and Tailb are the two only cornerbacks to meet those thresholds of 90 for those ratings, a PRS of 80+, receive the 2 AP PA ability, and Play Ball in Air - Aggressive, remains true.
PS Vincent is free making him not only one of the top 5 maybe corners in the game you can roster but the best value. The same holds true more or less for Tillman at SS if you decide to go that route.
How are you telling me those guys don’t hit those thresholds lmao I’m giving you the attributes they have by reading them directly off of the line up screen and the stats on the card…. you dont know how to buy a fucking strategy card or what? They all hit those no problem and are better Vincent. Idgaf if he’s free or not he’s not good enough to even crack the line up.
lakeofthewoods said:Talib and D Ward are the only other two cornerbacks that hit those thresholds of 90 for those ratings and PRS of 80+ for players with Tier 4 TT.
Most won't receive Talib but either way, he's CB1.
At 5'11" and only 74 CTH, D Ward does not however get the 2 AP PA ability.Davis does not hit 90 ZCV threshold. He also does not get the 2AP PA ability. Does not have the Play Ball in Air - Aggressive, trait.
Terrell Jr also does not hit 90 ZCV. He does however get the 2AP PA ability. Does have the Play Ball in Air - Aggressive, trait.
Revis at 5'11" doesn't hit 90 ZCV or 90 ACC thresholds. He does however get the 2 AP PA ability. Does have the Play Ball in Air - Aggressive, trait.If you read the thread I also mention that I have Terrell Jr and Vincent with PA playing on the outside and Revis at the slot. Ward is my CB4.
The statement however that Vincent and Tailb are the two only cornerbacks to meet those thresholds of 90 for those ratings, a PRS of 80+, receive the 2 AP PA ability, and Play Ball in Air - Aggressive, remains true.
PS Vincent is free making him not only one of the top 5 maybe corners in the game you can roster but the best value. The same holds true more or less for Tillman at SS if you decide to go that route.
Can you not read? You’re arguing with me like I didn’t just take the stats right off the back of the cards in the game. You wanna love that free card so much idgaf but flat out it ain’t that good, and theres already 4-5 cbs in the game better. How u gonna tell me AJ Terrell doesn’t hit them? Literally 91 speed, 91 acc, 90 agility, 90 prc, 91 mcv, 90 zcv, 91 press, 90 cod. He hits all the ones you tried to list and 2/3 more.…. You can’t get that Vincent to hit 90 man 90 zone 90 press no matter what you do like you can easily get on both Davis and Terrell. Idk wtf ur even trying to argue.
willbalton said:How are you telling me those guys don’t hit those thresholds lmao I’m giving you the attributes they have by reading them directly off of the line up screen and the stats on the card…. you dont know how to buy a fucking strategy card or what? They all hit those no problem and are better Vincent. Idgaf if he’s free or not he’s not good enough to even crack the line up.
You seem to have things you need to work out and would prefer to be part of the problem, rather than a part of the solution.
The statement is accurate. Tier 4 TT and ratings bump is the same for all players for that TT.
I made no mention or reference of strat cards and which of those you would need to get to 90 ZCV. It also does not change the fact that Davis, does NOT get the 2 AP PA ability, no matter how much you ignore or want it to be true.
Using the player search and filter with ratings of 89 SPD, 89 ACC to see which CB could or would hit those thresholds.
https://www.mut.gg/players/?market=3&accelerationgte=89&speedgte=89&zonecoveragegte=90&mancoveragegte=90&changeofdirectiongte=89&pressgte=80
Just because UDGAF doesn't mean math stops being a thing.
I did post about which strat cards can help players hit the 90 thresholds because I was curious myself and thought it would be helpful to others if you want to head over and troll that post as well?
https://www.mut.gg/forums/forum/mut-discussion-10/topic/hitting-the-90-mcv-90-cvg-thresholds-49352/?post=390862#390862
I have yet to see a (R) "In the Zone" strat card on the AH.
I have only seen one (UC) Eberflus card as it was being sold. (UC) McDermott is few and far between.
I have like 350 catches, 10,000 yards and 100+ touchdowns with Jason Witten since I've gotten him. He's been my go to target for months. At 90 ovr he is a beast.