For All of You Apologists That Argue That DDA Is an Excuse for 'Juss Git Gud'...

...why are my hardest H2H games against players with a bunch of low-OVR players on defense that absolutely blow my 89 OVR offensive line to pieces both running and passing? Why can't I get even two seconds against a four-man rush? Repeatedly? And quick sheds almost every time I try to run?

How can anyone argue that players are not being elevated by a discreet algorithm meant to improve the H2H experience for the uninitiated, but perverted by those acquainted with the arcane formulae for 'Make Opponent's Players Dumb Again'?

it matches u with similar ranking, so if they had both a bad team and a bad scheme why would they match you together? its likely when you see a bad team, a very cheesey and effective scheme is conpensating.

thecornhusk said:

it matches u with similar ranking, so if they had both a bad team and a bad scheme why would they match you together? its likely when you see a bad team, a very cheesey and effective scheme is conpensating.

That would explain why a weak team with a superior scheme would win. It doesn't explain why personnel that would be zeroes dominate superior personnel.

But thanks for the complement. I just don't think I deserve to have to battle the functional equivalent of 99 OVR teams during early November.

Dda is a thing. Just got to get used to it. But, from a spreadsheet I seen awhile back. It only works against you 33 percent of the time. 33 percent in your favor. And the other 33 percent its neutral. So just by those odds alone you can still win 66 percent of your games. And even if dda is working for them they can still lose. Just sucks when they are dialed in and getting all the extra bs. Not much you can do. But just sit back and take an ass Whooping.

Every time I see this argument, I wonder why the people who believe it don't lower the ovr of their teams so they can get the same benefit and wins from the "DDA".

There's no reason to even argue whether or not it exists, prove it to yourself by playing with the same lower ovr players and come back with the results.   This isn't a challenge for you to prove something to me, it is simply a recommendation to be able to prove it to yourself very easily. 

As someone said above, usually those who are playing with lower ovr players know they can't take risks and have a really solid scheme to ensure they're not exposed often by everyone playing with better teams than they have.   But if anyone truly believes it's just the game compensating, tank your team and run it to see if you get the same results.   I'm very much interested in this experiment and the results of win % before and after tanking the team.

Moderator Sevein131 said:

Every time I see this argument, I wonder why the people who believe it don't lower the ovr of their teams so they can get the same benefit and wins from the "DDA".

There's no reason to even argue whether or not it exists, prove it to yourself by playing with the same lower ovr players and come back with the results.   This isn't a challenge for you to prove something to me, it is simply a recommendation to be able to prove it to yourself very easily. 

As someone said above, usually those who are playing with lower ovr players know they can't take risks and have a really solid scheme to ensure they're not exposed often by everyone playing with better teams than they have.   But if anyone truly believes it's just the game compensating, tank your team and run it to see if you get the same results.   I'm very much interested in this experiment and the results of win % before and after tanking the team.

Gutfoxx made a video breaking down dda. It affects all teams no matter the ovr. It's just more noticeable against lower ovr players because they be doing things they shouldn't. When we see our wr1 doing some crazy shit. We think oh he balls out, maybe it was just dda getting that catch for you and not his ovr. To me in seems as if it changes by the qtr.  I just try to make it to the next qtr by killing the clock and hope for some improvement.

quest for excellence

Sometimes I play challenges on rookie just to get stats for my daily challenges and field pass. The game looks the same but obviously the computer defense does not play the same. Same thing, when you play challenges on the most difficult level the game looks the same but doesn't play the same. This is how DDA works in H2H. Sometimes my computer players are playing at All Madden level and shedding every block and sometimes they are playing at rookie level and I can't stop the run no matter what I call.

It is easy to see this in action. You ever go for it on a 4th down play and you do everything the exact same but sometimes your QB overthrows the receiver or the receiver just drops the ball? The game is punishing you.

You ever play a challenge where the goal is to force a fumble or get an interception and somehow during that challenge the computer fumbles every hit-stick or the computer QB throws the ball directly to your CB? Its because this challenge is programmed to do that for you. Game looks the same, but something in the coding is different and you can feel it.

phatalerror said:

That would explain why a weak team with a superior scheme would win. It doesn't explain why personnel that would be zeroes dominate superior personnel.

But thanks for the complement. I just don't think I deserve to have to battle the functional equivalent of 99 OVR teams during early November.

that would exactly explain it. hes using a play and adjustments in the game that arent real football, but glitch out the AI to get a result that shouldnt occur and help him win some turnivers and games. thats all. theres tons of meta and off meta sstuff when in tendem together, takes a very good team and scheme and patient man on the other side.

play Mario Brothers instead

I noticed that my Oline can't block for shit against 4 man rushes. It's not even cheese defenses, the Oline just doesn't do shit and guys come through in less than a second.

Because those players are actually good.     DDA isn’t in the game.

Daddy said:

quest for excellence

Always

Good day 

I always feel I have to put some input into these topics being that I’ve suddenly noticed odd things happening over the past two years being that I’ve put a bit more time into these games just recently in another topic I spoke of how I was winning by two touchdowns when suddenly Christian McCaffrey from season one just was plowing through everybody as he did for the two-point conversion to win the game. crazy part was it was the same run play that I was shutting down consistently in the first half.

I don’t know if this is because sliders on my team went down but for whatever reason, 90 speed overall DB’s and other players weren’t able to take him down and the funny thing is, I thought they spoke of how this year size and weight would matter yet unfortunately that was not the case here as season one Christian McCaffrey plowed through two DT’s that weigh 300+ pounds and a linebacker and I didn’t understand how. now was this DDA? I don’t know, but I just know that it was just suddenly odd how the game was going one way and just flipped to another way where he ended up walking away with a win

Now here is a game where the opponent I was playing was very good, I had no chance of winning this game whatsoever and didn’t deserve to yet I did heres how I won this game .  I was losing as usual and i managed to score a touchdown, then the CPU caused a hit stick fumble on a kick return which I picked up and then ran in for a touchdown. Then the CPU again caused another fumble on the next possession giving me the ball with great field position and then when he was trying to win the game by kicking a field goal, the CPU blocked his field goal attempt when I wasn’t even playing 

so these are the things that I question when playing online head to head and how could they happen based on the player stats that were being told the cards have?