Team Diamonds Rant

mythomaniac said:

Hey, I totally get where you're coming from, and honestly, I agree with a lot of what you’re saying.

The lack of transparency around the Deluxe and Premium passes, and the way certain features give players with money an early or unfair advantage—it’s hard not to feel like it’s rigged against players who want to grind their way through the game without spending extra cash.

I do not play H2H, I tried to complete the Most Feared challenge of winning 5 games and I failed.  I could only manage 3 wins and my final loss was to a little kid (I heard his voice through the HS).  I felt the exact same way when I tried to play H2H  and I'm matched with a team who had all the players released the day before.  

The system can make it feel like the gap between NMS and Pay-to-Play is just getting wider, and it’s tough not to feel like we're in different "tiers" of the community, like you said.

The majority of my lineup is made up on BND players and completing sets.  I worked hard for what I got and Season Pass is weak, I actually made post about it when S3 ended.

I think your point about EA’s monetization schemes really resonated with me—those changes that happen after the purchase, like you mentioned, make it feel like we were never given the full picture upfront. And yeah, it definitely feels like the whole situation just creates a divide between players, which is really disheartening when you want to just enjoy the game and compete on a more level playing field.

I just wanted to let you know I hear you, and I feel that same frustration. I think you’ve brought up some really valid points about the direction of the game and how it’s affecting the experience for a lot of players.

If you're on PC I'd love to play a game :)

Here the link to the S3 rewards forum post.

https://www.mut.gg/forums/forum/mut-discussion-10/topic/s3-final-reward-49782/?post=393862#393862

It seems EA heard me screaming into the void and put the Team Diamond Token Bundles back in the store, all is forgiven... for now.

whiplash13 said:

I am not saying I agree with it, just saying if that is how they are choosing to spend their money, who cares.  While I was commenting on your post, this wasn't meant directly to you.  I see it all the time, where NMS people get on people who spend money on packs.  If people didn't spend money on packs, there would be no auction house since most of the free packs have trash odds.

again i dont care. If he gets his money back thats good on him though.  Just imagine a world where you didnt have to spend 100 bucks to get a 20 percent chance at a LTD its a joke.  But hey if thats what they think they need to get better at the game, facts are it wont help some average player get good all im saying.  Not going to lie no money spent people actually have a brain and make sets and run the auctions those people swiping debit cards are buying those cards because thats the only way they know how to get cards LOL

JCAP711 said:

again i dont care. If he gets his money back thats good on him though.  Just imagine a world where you didnt have to spend 100 bucks to get a 20 percent chance at a LTD its a joke.  But hey if thats what they think they need to get better at the game, facts are it wont help some average player get good all im saying.  Not going to lie no money spent people actually have a brain and make sets and run the auctions those people swiping debit cards are buying those cards because thats the only way they know how to get cards LOL

OR they can't spend 10 hours a day playing the game making sets and playing the auction house, yet they still want some of the new cards coming out.  I agree, micro transactions in games is crap, but they are making money hand over fist, so it isn't going anywhere.  Also, not sure all people who spend money are trying to stay competitive.  Some people, like me, enjoy the collecting cards part of the game and rarely play online.  I wouldn't spend that kind of money on the game though, but if someone else does, that is good for them.  One major problem in the world today is everyone thinks their perspective is the only correct perspective and everyone else don't "have a brain" or some other slight.  People need to stop being so obtuse and realize there is more than 1 right path in some cases.

whiplash13 said:

OR they can't spend 10 hours a day playing the game making sets and playing the auction house, yet they still want some of the new cards coming out.  I agree, micro transactions in games is crap, but they are making money hand over fist, so it isn't going anywhere.  Also, not sure all people who spend money are trying to stay competitive.  Some people, like me, enjoy the collecting cards part of the game and rarely play online.  I wouldn't spend that kind of money on the game though, but if someone else does, that is good for them.  One major problem in the world today is everyone thinks their perspective is the only correct perspective and everyone else don't "have a brain" or some other slight.  People need to stop being so obtuse and realize there is more than 1 right path in some cases.

i didnt say it was the wrong way.  But i will say nms is more efficient for your wallet. Get you money up not your overall

JCAP711 said:

i didnt say it was the wrong way.  But i will say nms is more efficient for your wallet. Get you money up not your overall

I think that goes without saying.  But people put a value on their time.  If you are making $100/hour, spending 6 hours grinding 200k coins may not be worth it to them.

whiplash13 said:

I am not saying I agree with it, just saying if that is how they are choosing to spend their money, who cares.  While I was commenting on your post, this wasn't meant directly to you.  I see it all the time, where NMS people get on people who spend money on packs.  If people didn't spend money on packs, there would be no auction house since most of the free packs have trash odds.

NMS (No Money Spent) players argue that it's fine to grind for as long as it takes to build a better roster. That’s fair—your time, your choice.

But why is it okay to criticize those who think my money, my choice applies just as much?

The competitive aspect makes this even more complex. To compete at the highest level, you need a top-tier roster. But this creates a tension: the monetized system indirectly preys on NMS players who seek an equal playing field.

The reality is that H2H (Head-to-Head) gameplay isn’t for everyone—especially if seeing better rosters, regardless of how they were built, ruins your experience.

At the end of the day, EA is a corporation. Its goal is to maximize shareholder value. This isn’t new information. We all knew EA was greedy before buying the game, and we knew MUT (Madden Ultimate Team) was a money sink before we started.

Would you buy an NFT if you couldn’t sell it? Or crypto if it had no market?

Cards in Madden are essentially NFTs, and Madden Points are basically crypto. Neither holds any intrinsic value, yet we willingly participate—whether by wasting time as NMS players or spending money as paying players.

So the real question is: what’s more valuable to you—your time or your money?

I’ve spent more money on this game than I wanted to as well. Early in the game I pulled solid cards to where I was okay with it. Now whenever I buy a pack it is terrible.

mythomaniac said:

NMS (No Money Spent) players argue that it's fine to grind for as long as it takes to build a better roster. That’s fair—your time, your choice.

But why is it okay to criticize those who think my money, my choice applies just as much?

The competitive aspect makes this even more complex. To compete at the highest level, you need a top-tier roster. But this creates a tension: the monetized system indirectly preys on NMS players who seek an equal playing field.

The reality is that H2H (Head-to-Head) gameplay isn’t for everyone—especially if seeing better rosters, regardless of how they were built, ruins your experience.

At the end of the day, EA is a corporation. Its goal is to maximize shareholder value. This isn’t new information. We all knew EA was greedy before buying the game, and we knew MUT (Madden Ultimate Team) was a money sink before we started.

Would you buy an NFT if you couldn’t sell it? Or crypto if it had no market?

Cards in Madden are essentially NFTs, and Madden Points are basically crypto. Neither holds any intrinsic value, yet we willingly participate—whether by wasting time as NMS players or spending money as paying players.

So the real question is: what’s more valuable to you—your time or your money?

My points exactly.  Couldn't agree more.

ajredsox03 said:

How are people actually making coins without spending money id love to know

you can make about 250k by playing a full ultimate solo season 40-0 or just grind H2H, both suck but its about it for little or no money spent, i just buy season offers that are good myself

I am a whale but I am not an enemy to other sea life. If you are plankton then we may have a problem. My mind goes to Puget Sound. The whales there are attacking the yachts but not the fishing boats. The whales and the fishermen have coexisted for years and without direct communication found a way to achieve peaceful cohabitation. The yachts said to hell with that and the whales said to hell with you. That’s probably just going to have most people looking at me like I’m crazy but in fairness that seems to happen a lot.

The point is as a whale I’m not happy either. Maybe we should evolve and go on shore or become like that pod of killer whales. I’m getting to caught up in this ocean ecosystem metaphor. One last thing I will bring up is that there are entire ecosystems built around whales in our oceans. I’m not saying I want to be the center of attention or specifically catered to. I’d like the ability to do things that help people in the community. Directly in game I mean. I’d like to be able to share my experience. When I tried to previously come up with ways to do that it ended badly for me. EA gave me that ban hammer very quickly. So now I protect myself. That really sucks.

It’s sad we are at a point in this game where our content creators get the most views when they post videos talking about how bad this game is. It’s cool to hate EA sure but that clearly shows a diminished interest as well.

I haven’t seen any evidence that anyone on the dev team plays the game. So how could they hope to know how to improve it? I’m sure there are plenty that can code it but that’s not what we are talking about.

This game isn’t going to get cheaper overall. EA or any other developer will be expected to continue to improve revenues and without that monetization Madden won’t exist. The most we can hope for is a different monetization model and some evidence by action that EA cares or even wants us here. Always more to say but that’ll do pig. That’ll do.