Cunningham is on the list twice, just an FYI
Got Henry for 300k and I'm liking it but, and this sounds stupid, I miss the tight spiral lol.
Great work JDAWG, interesting comparison and analysis.
I did note a calculation error in the spread sheet though. The calculated speed for slinger 1 is .711 but your trial s average out to .797, likewise the traditional 3 figures to 1.011 a slight bit faster than the chart shows at 1.056.
Adjusting for these corrections: Slinger 1 is still by far the fastest release followed by:
Traditional 2 -11% slower
Generic 3 - 23% slower
Traditional 1 - 24% slower
Slinger 2- 24% slower
Traditional 3- 27% slower
Generic 2- 29% slower
Slinger 3- 30% slower
Slinger 4- 33% slower
Traditional 4- 34% slower
Generic 1- 34% slower
Traditional 5- 44% slower
jaybird said:I'll ask because i know anyone who looks in this thread will want to know....
What's Romo's release?
he has slinger 2
maxredbolt said:Great work JDAWG, interesting comparison and analysis.
I did note a calculation error in the spread sheet though. The calculated speed for slinger 1 is .711 but your trial s average out to .797, likewise the traditional 3 figures to 1.011 a slight bit faster than the chart shows at 1.056.
Adjusting for these corrections: Slinger 1 is still by far the fastest release followed by:
Traditional 2 -11% slower
Generic 3 - 23% slower
Traditional 1 - 24% slower
Slinger 2- 24% slower
Traditional 3- 27% slower
Generic 2- 29% slower
Slinger 3- 30% slower
Slinger 4- 33% slower
Traditional 4- 34% slower
Generic 1- 34% slower
Traditional 5- 44% slower
thanks for letting me know man
Jdawg said:*New QB release tier list**
Every single QB release including legends/past qbs . As of right now, I couldn't find any QB with Traditional 2.
In order from best to worst based on rankings
Slinger 1 is Rodgers, Marino, Mariota, Jake Plummer, Derrick Henry
Traditional 2 is N/A
Generic 3 is Daniel Jones, Ryan Tannehill, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Taysom Hill, Josh Allen, Derek Carr, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, Deshaun
Watson, Jared Goff, Teddy, Sam Bradford
Bridgewater, Kyler Murray, Carson Wentz, Jalen Hurts, Matt Ryan, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, Kirk Cousins, Boomer Esiason, Randall Cunningham, Mitchell Trubisky, Ryan FitzpatrickTraditional 1 is Tom Brady, Joe Burrow
Slinger 2 is Jimmy Garoppolo, Baker Mayfield, Zach Wilson, Tony Romo
Traditional 3 is Phill Simms
Generic 2 is N/A
Slinger 3 is Mahomes, Matthew Stafford
Slinger 4 is Lamar Jackson, Vick
Traditional 4 is Trevor Lawrence, Ben Roethlisberger,
Generic 1 is Tim Tebow, Jim Kelly, Johnny Unitas
Traditional 5 is Mac Jones, Herbert, Peyton Manning
Note: Interesting how 90% of all QBs release went from generic 1 in 21 to generic 3 in 22.
do you know any qbs that has gunslinger
Are you just asking about the ability itself? It would change depending on the qb archetype that is being used if they have it and when they would have it.
Excellent thread! Thanks!
Omw2fyb said:do you know any qbs that has gunslinger
Here's the list of every QB that can get Gunslinger:
https://www.mut.gg/players/?ability=2003
There's a filter for it on the player list in the site's database so you can look up players by any ability.
MikeyD said:Excellent thread! Thanks!
Definitely very useful!
younk16 said:So just my thoughts. Mariota does not have Marino/Rodgers release, does he? I dont think Romo does either. They may have quicker releases but not the same. Plummer does however, have the Marino/Roders release. I think the biggest issues with releases is how long it takes them to throw the deeper balls. Even Marino's release on the longer passes is terribly slow. Also, i think there is zero help from Quickdraw. Again, just my observation. I may be fully of it LOL.
I appreciate the chart and info for sure! This is great work!
Romo has slinger 2
Man they screwed Herbert. 😂
How good is slinger 2 on the run?