ZC Re-Roll findings

Hello all, I just wanted to make this post to sorta be a guinea pig for the ZC re-roll. I always find with re-rolls that have alt currency there might be more opportunity to make profit or mitigate losses so I wanted to test that tonight with the ZC rolls. I rolled right around 120 packs (3.2M coins) tonight and this is what I found. 

1. 93s and 94s are rareee - This is obvious, they are always rare in promo re rolls I pulled 0 tonight. These will make you bank if you manage to pull one but it will take a long time. 

2. 90s and 83s - These are the cards you will want to sell for coins. They are the 2 highest coins to snow ratio of the ZC/SS cards released today. I pulled 5 90s (Sold for 185K =832,500coins), pulled around 80 83s (Sold for 10K = 720,000coins) 

3a. 87s - There are two things you can do with these cards depending on your roll at a given time. If you roll a large sample size an pull a good amount of 90s or a 93 I would sell these for coins to make up your losses, then with the leftover 87s quicksell them for snow and reinvest that snow into the 93 champion or presents. 

3b. Sell for coins, if you are strictly looking for profit you can sell these for coins at 45K a pop. (I pulled 34 tonight and sold for 45K each = 1.37M coins). 

Summary - I rolled around 3.2 Million coins into these re-rolls and only lost 300K (9.3%) without pulling a 93 or 94. If you are going to do this with 1 million+ coins I would definitely recommend selling the 87s to make up your losses then quick selling the rest for snow. This ensures your risk is mitigated and you will slowly be making cheap to even free snow for use throughout the programs duration. I think this re roll is profitable because of my terrible luck with 93s and LTDs but do not take my sample as gospel I still feel that it is too small of a sample and it will take a long time to turn a profit on continuous rolling.

12 rerolls gave me 3 87ovrs and remainder was 83s

bhowell2184 said:

Hello all, I just wanted to make this post to sorta be a guinea pig for the ZC re-roll. I always find with re-rolls that have alt currency there might be more opportunity to make profit or mitigate losses so I wanted to test that tonight with the ZC rolls. I rolled right around 120 packs (3.2M coins) tonight and this is what I found. 

1. 93s and 94s are rareee - This is obvious, they are always rare in promo re rolls I pulled 0 tonight. These will make you bank if you manage to pull one but it will take a long time. 

2. 90s and 83s - These are the cards you will want to sell for coins. They are the 2 highest coins to snow ratio of the ZC/SS cards released today. I pulled 5 90s (Sold for 185K =832,500coins), pulled around 80 83s (Sold for 10K = 720,000coins) 

3a. 87s - There are two things you can do with these cards depending on your roll at a given time. If you roll a large sample size an pull a good amount of 90s or a 93 I would sell these for coins to make up your losses, then with the leftover 87s quicksell them for snow and reinvest that snow into the 93 champion or presents. 

3b. Sell for coins, if you are strictly looking for profit you can sell these for coins at 45K a pop. (I pulled 34 tonight and sold for 45K each = 1.37M coins). 

Summary - I rolled around 3.2 Million coins into these re-rolls and only lost 300K (9.3%) without pulling a 93 or 94. If you are going to do this with 1 million+ coins I would definitely recommend selling the 87s to make up your losses then quick selling the rest for snow. This ensures your risk is mitigated and you will slowly be making cheap to even free snow for use throughout the programs duration. I think this re roll is profitable because of my terrible luck with 93s and LTDs but do not take my sample as gospel I still feel that it is too small of a sample and it will take a long time to turn a profit on continuous rolling.

I stopped after getting 10 straight 83's.

I've been doing them at around 20 at a time, did super early when it dropped to maximize my profits, was able to get my bnd ceedee and made 600k, did 10 this morning with only 1 87 for it. Hit or miss per the norm, but 1 90 and you're pretty much making snow or profit, the key has been finding a cheap 92 to start and go from there imo

RobStillRules1 said:

I've been doing them at around 20 at a time, did super early when it dropped to maximize my profits, was able to get my bnd ceedee and made 600k, did 10 this morning with only 1 87 for it. Hit or miss per the norm, but 1 90 and you're pretty much making snow or profit, the key has been finding a cheap 92 to start and go from there imo

Yeah I definitely think over a larger sample size they’re closer to 20-25% drop rate not the 10% you got in the sample this morning. Or I could of gotten super lucky and it really is closer to 10%

Took a 5 year hiatus from MUT and I’m back this year . Can someone explain this to me like im 5 ? Which pack are you being in the store ? Are you using coin or snow ? thanks

bhowell2184 said:

Yeah I definitely think over a larger sample size they’re closer to 20-25% drop rate not the 10% you got in the sample this morning. Or I could of gotten super lucky and it really is closer to 10%

Agree, when I was doing more yesterday I was closer to 20% 90s. This morning I was bored before work at 430 and hoped for some early hour super 93 luck lol

RobStillRules1 said:

Agree, when I was doing more yesterday I was closer to 20% 90s. This morning I was bored before work at 430 and hoped for some early hour super 93 luck lol

lol, I kept doing my rolls yesterday chasing Ramsey or Stroud and any 93 I would want to sell. Obviously no luck with that but I was lucky enough to only lose 300K coins. Unless you get training super cheap rn I wouldn’t recommend doing it since 90s and 93s prices dropped A LOT overnight for some reason. I could see 93s falling to closer to 600K rather than the 700K they were when I rolled yesterday.

Ramirez0131 said:

Took a 5 year hiatus from MUT and I’m back this year . Can someone explain this to me like im 5 ? Which pack are you being in the store ? Are you using coin or snow ? thanks

Using training, it is an alt currency you can use to apply abilities, apply X-Factors, or open packs. Cards that are not Zero Chill, Stocking Stuffers, or LTDs will quicksell for training. You can turn coins into training by buying players off the auction house. I was personally buying 91s at 140K coins which quick sell for 16,700 training. Meaning I was buying training at 8.4 coins per training (140,000/16,700 ~ 8.4 coins per training). Oftentimes, when new promos drop they will have a reroll pack option in the training store which is what zero chill had yesterday. In older maddens these were typically a good way of making coins since training was cheap and so was the pack so your cost per pack was low enough to make profit just by rolling the pack and selling why you pull. This hasn’t been the case in the last three MUTs but this post shared my findings of what I pulled yesterday.

bhowell2184 said:

Using training, it is an alt currency you can use to apply abilities, apply X-Factors, or open packs. Cards that are not Zero Chill, Stocking Stuffers, or LTDs will quicksell for training. You can turn coins into training by buying players off the auction house. I was personally buying 91s at 140K coins which quick sell for 16,700 training. Meaning I was buying training at 8.4 coins per training (140,000/16,700 ~ 8.4 coins per training). Oftentimes, when new promos drop they will have a reroll pack option in the training store which is what zero chill had yesterday. In older maddens these were typically a good way of making coins since training was cheap and so was the pack so your cost per pack was low enough to make profit just by rolling the pack and selling why you pull. This hasn’t been the case in the last three MUTs but this post shared my findings of what I pulled yesterday.

Thanks  for the explanation. I thought that might have been the case so I picked up a 92 TD bruce Smith for 220K . Quicksold him for 26K training and bought 9 packs used training . I got 8 83’s and 1  90 . was able to resell the 90 at 165K and the 83’s at 8300 . Basically I lost 10% which was the juice in the AH . But I got lucky on the 90 , had I not hit that it would have been a massive fail .   

I do remember doing this in older Madden when I played from 14 to 19’ and there was a much better payout .

on a side note . I did use the tocken from team of the week and do 3 90 bnds and Qs them yesterday . Got 4 packs and hit on a 90 . Not sure if that was the best play , but the 90 made it work . And I built Ceedee . I figured that was the best option for my TOTW token as I have had terrible pack luck all year and using them on the 83+ pack would have gotten me a 83 totw player

Ramirez0131 said:

Thanks  for the explanation. I thought that might have been the case so I picked up a 92 TD bruce Smith for 220K . Quicksold him for 26K training and bought 9 packs used training . I got 8 83’s and 1  90 . was able to resell the 90 at 165K and the 83’s at 8300 . Basically I lost 10% which was the juice in the AH . But I got lucky on the 90 , had I not hit that it would have been a massive fail .   

I do remember doing this in older Madden when I played from 14 to 19’ and there was a much better payout .

on a side note . I did use the tocken from team of the week and do 3 90 bnds and Qs them yesterday . Got 4 packs and hit on a 90 . Not sure if that was the best play , but the 90 made it work . And I built Ceedee . I figured that was the best option for my TOTW token as I have had terrible pack luck all year and using them on the 83+ pack would have gotten me a 83 totw player

I always like saving any BND cards I get unless there’s a better version of that card because you never know when you will want to sell your team or build a random theme team and being able to save as much coins as possible during that time could be crucial. Thats just me though do whatever you want that’s the beauty of ultimate team games.

thanks for the info but how long did it took you to sell all does 83s and 87s?

hulksmashr2 said:

thanks for the info but how long did it took you to sell all does 83s and 87s?

selling 83s at 10.5K took about 40mins. 87s at 45K took about 5 minutes.

Running another 20, probs should quit yesterday when I was way ahead, all 83. RIP