It just has to be said…

I normally defend EA when saying this game is very playable competitively without consistently putting money  in the game. With that being said, I do feel as if it’s shying way too far away from that. You used to be able to earn some of the best players in the game simply by playing. You would get a card towards the master set from solos, one from objectives, and so forth to where you would only need to purchase with coins or packs one of three masters. Now, all you get from playing are a bunch of mid BND cards that barely crack your starting lineup. House rules rewards are garbage. solo challenge rewards are garbage. You get one usable card for a master set at the tail end of the field pass that isn’t even achievable until the 2nd release of a given program. and instead of how it used to be of redeeming 3-4 cards for a master set, now it’s turning to 5-6. Who cares what cards you get back as BND, half of them won’t crack the lineup! most promos aren’t even doable without spending money. Legends are definitely not doable without spending money. They took out the best set for legends which was 5 low legends for a high legend exchange. This isn’t even to mention how badly they’ve ruined TOTW and taking out WCW and replacing it with a weekly promo that doesn’t even have a reroll! And they can’t even release a thing in this game without having something go wrong with it. it’s so laughable at this point.

I can’t argue with anything you are saying.  If they didn’t have a monopoly, they would be out of business with how poorly they run the game and how poorly they treat/communicTe with their player base.  You didn’t even bring up their tendency to rand only ban their customer base for using an app that they created?  What successful company does stuff like that?

Charmingjmor said:

I can’t argue with anything you are saying.  If they didn’t have a monopoly, they would be out of business with how poorly they run the game and how poorly they treat/communicTe with their player base.  You didn’t even bring up their tendency to rand only ban their customer base for using an app that they created?  What successful company does stuff like that?

Yepp exactly! I really thought they were going in the right direction with the field passes and getting a new card every 2 weeks from CP was awesome, but man was I wrong with the way they changed sets. And the whole thing with the app was such BS too. and yes they do have a monopoly, but I desperately hope 2k does get the new nfl game back next year to force them into reshaping madden into a lot less of a pay to play

Nauracy34 said:

Yepp exactly! I really thought they were going in the right direction with the field passes and getting a new card every 2 weeks from CP was awesome, but man was I wrong with the way they changed sets. And the whole thing with the app was such BS too. and yes they do have a monopoly, but I desperately hope 2k does get the new nfl game back next year to force them into reshaping madden into a lot less of a pay to play

Speaking of 2k, is 2k 23 any good? I think I'll be looking for something to do until Madden starts giving out better challenge rewards.

I am playing 23 significantly less than any previous version. Pretty much knocking out my dailies and chipping away at solos, but I agree with OP the only decent rewards go to very good H2H players, solo players are receiving mostly crap from the passes. I am starting 91 free Casper and I believe a chemmed up 90 free CB but I think that is it from rewards. and that was from the first season pass, #2 is weak, like 87's.

mvandor said:

I am playing 23 significantly less than any previous version. Pretty much knocking out my dailies and chipping away at solos, but I agree with OP the only decent rewards go to very good H2H players, solo players are receiving mostly crap from the passes. I am starting 91 free Casper and I believe a chemmed up 90 free CB but I think that is it from rewards. and that was from the first season pass, #2 is weak, like 87's.

That’s the thing, I would consider myself a pretty decent H2H player. I win about 2/3 of my online games, nearly max out competitive pass every 2 weeks. but the rewards for every new promo is essentially non existent. Getting 1 usable card for the master sets would be fine if you only needed 3 for the set. But when you get, at most, 1/6 for master sets, that just screams “PAY MONEY FOR THE SET”. They should really model the game after Diamond Dynasty in the show. The best cards in the game are rewarded to people who grind, not just use a credit card. The promo packs aren’t overboard and you get some of the best rewards from Gameplay. And not to mention, there’s only one currency so if you want to just buy the cards you want with money, you can buy stubs then outright buy the cards. Not buying points to open shitty packs to get you a quarter of the way to the cards you want. even the bundle toppers are ass now. They used to be get an 87ovr topper, now it’s like 3 82”+”, as if anyone is gonna pull anything higher than an 82… atrocious

A great example of 💩 rewards are the AKA rewards

Get through 18 challenges to earn 72 stars and 2 82s 🔥🔥🔥

$50 and $100 bundles with the wrong topper 🔥🔥🔥

ONE SINGULAR 87+ pack for 5k training 🔥🔥🔥

Looks like Zirksee and other CCs are feeling the same way as well

https://twitter.com/zirksee/status/1572377546528018434?s=46&t=yH0zKeEZfqMjdmmOYdXMkg

Nauracy34 said:

Looks like Zirksee and other CCs are feeling the same way as well

https://twitter.com/zirksee/status/1572377546528018434?s=46&t=yH0zKeEZfqMjdmmOYdXMkg

These are good points

Money doesn’t help you unless you have a lucky account.  You can buy every pack allowable and end up with an 85 as your top card.  Packs are really, really, really bad.  I am not opening them anymore.  You can buy out the Legend packs and only get the low cards for the newest legend.  It is not just bad but bad bad. They lower toppers from one week to the next.  The training rerolls are terrible.  The reward system is pretty sad.  Look at the top rewards past the Dave Casper.  Laughable and nothing to look forward too.  And how many days are left in the Season Pass.  You will probably have it maxed soon and have 20 days of no rewards except on Competitive pass where Offline players must play online to get a reward that other than Tariq is not worth it. Even H2H players are forced to play Mut Champs.  Also they took the fun out of power ups, the Legend program, and investing.   Abilities are not even fun.  I actually don’t completely despise the game play this year but with all the bad changes, EA greed, and bugs the game is almost not worth playing.  The only good thing is it may have killed Mut for me.  will save me money. I have actually been playing Franchise and I never play it till after Easter.  But now I find out that it may be bugged and lots of people can not play after first year.  Fun.  Maybe it is time to put the game down like many others.  I am pretty sure EA already did and went off to work on NCAA.  Which they are bound to ruin.