I know this is very scheme dependent, but any thoughts on best offense/defense strats (aside from the +4 man/zone cb cards).
Offense: debating between the +4 pass block, but not sure if that impacts all o-line men, or just tackles or guards.
Defense: curious how the pass rush and mlb ones play like lurker and ripper. Also,
i am running let it rip for the throw power, and lurker on defence. i then run in the zone silver for my hybrid and the zcv coach
Appreciated, i sold my let it rip for like 150k, but does it make that much of a difference ? I have Josh allen, who already hits the 95 thresh.
Thinking of running the + 4 pass block, or the run one, checking what thresh holds my oline hits with each later and grabbing the one with the most impact.
Have a +1 zone and +1 man for other strats.
Defense - hybrid works best with my cbs, but that lurker one looks tempting.
+4 pass block is a waste. Only PBP and PBF affect in game outcomes.
Also zone boosts are a waste, once at 90 zone is the same. Man does matter tho
I run route tree to make my WR’s hit the 90 threshold & hybrid to boost my cb’s & safety's since I heavily rely on them in my scheme
Are both those about zone not mattering after 90 and pass block not mattering real? in regards to passing, I thought all three mattered for pass blocking (pbf, pbp, and pbk) And run blocking was the one where only rbk mattered. This is from the google doc posted a few weeks back breaking down oline abilities.
if this is true, then I’m scrapping both of my strat Cards
bigg12121 said:Are both those about zone not mattering after 90 and pass block not mattering real? in regards to passing, I thought all three mattered for pass blocking (pbf, pbp, and pbk) And run blocking was the one where only rbk mattered. This is from the google doc posted a few weeks back breaking down oline abilities.
if this is true, then I’m scrapping both of my strat Cards
Yes, zone>=90 is coded to play the same as 99 zone. You are correct about Pass and Run blocking. The google doc came from MUTleaks analyzing the code and revealing threshholds and win/loss chances of non-threshhold ratings. All 3 factor into a pass block win or loss (in addition to any abilities you may have and other factors such as strength and weight also play a factor)...and RBF /RBP don't really matter (weight/strength does though). Also, on pulling plays (where an O lineman is on the move and trying to make a block in space), IBL and LBK matter as well.
RyyoLurkedEm said:i am running let it rip for the throw power, and lurker on defence. i then run in the zone silver for my hybrid and the zcv coach
Agree with the LIR but not sure I will stick with it because Stroud already has at least 97 or 98 THP without it on my squad....On D I go with Man because sometimes I man up certain players or run a man blitz from time to time...All my players, right on down to my MLBs and SubLBs hit the zone threshhold but Man coverage is based on Man rating vs RR rating directly as there is no threshhold...so boosted man cvg helps me more. I thought about pursuit or play rec actually because some cards are below 90 but I have other strats and boosts that get almost all my cards up to 90+.
I think play rec and pursuit on defense is underrated
So my question is what is the difference between 90 throw power, 95 and 99 throw power? Are they the same regardless of the number?
Kyleb63 said:+4 pass block is a waste. Only PBP and PBF affect in game outcomes.
Whoa, really? I'd seen a bunch of folks lately running the +4 Pass Block epic strategy item. I don't have one, otherwise i might have tried it. Still using, uhhh, Let it Rip, i believe. The +3 Throwing Power and +1 Deep Accuracy. MOAR POWER. UNLIMITED POWER. 😉
On defense i had used the S3 epic, which boosted all DBs (both Safeties and Corners), however it was something liek +2 MCV +1 ZCV +1 TAK -- so i've since swapped it out for the +4 ZCV (CB only), so that my corners are all basically 99 ZCV.
And to round things out, i've got +1 ZCV (Bills Coach) and Hybrid or whatever. May need to consider adjusting the final / hybrid strategy item, as i'm almost certainly at or near max (99) Zone Coverage, so perhaps is going to waste.
peatrick said:Whoa, really? I'd seen a bunch of folks lately running the +4 Pass Block epic strategy item. I don't have one, otherwise i might have tried it. Still using, uhhh, Let it Rip, i believe. The +3 Throwing Power and +1 Deep Accuracy. MOAR POWER. UNLIMITED POWER. 😉
On defense i had used the S3 epic, which boosted all DBs (both Safeties and Corners), however it was something liek +2 MCV +1 ZCV +1 TAK -- so i've since swapped it out for the +4 ZCV (CB only), so that my corners are all basically 99 ZCV.
And to round things out, i've got +1 ZCV (Bills Coach) and Hybrid or whatever. May need to consider adjusting the final / hybrid strategy item, as i'm almost certainly at or near max (99) Zone Coverage, so perhaps is going to waste.
If MutLeaks is to be believed, only PBP and PBF have an impact on pass blocking. PB itself is an empty stat.
Madxsaint said:Also zone boosts are a waste, once at 90 zone is the same. Man does matter tho
This is not correct. The higher the zone the higher the chance your player will break in the ball the instant it leaves the QBs hand. This frequently leads to intercepts and breakup. These numbers aren't exact, but it works kinda like this, if your player has 91 zone he will instantly break on the ball 10% of the time. If he has 95 zone, he will break on ball 50% of the time, and so on up to 99.
Filmsg said:This is not correct. The higher the zone the higher the chance your player will break in the ball the instant it leaves the QBs hand. This frequently leads to intercepts and breakup. These numbers aren't exact, but it works kinda like this, if your player has 91 zone he will instantly break on the ball 10% of the time. If he has 95 zone, he will break on ball 50% of the time, and so on up to 99.
Unless they changed it this year. This is how it worked last several years.
Filmsg said:This is not correct. The higher the zone the higher the chance your player will break in the ball the instant it leaves the QBs hand. This frequently leads to intercepts and breakup. These numbers aren't exact, but it works kinda like this, if your player has 91 zone he will instantly break on the ball 10% of the time. If he has 95 zone, he will break on ball 50% of the time, and so on up to 99.
Once zone hits 90 in Madden 24 they will play the same. Only difference is Play Rec & awareness, that’s what’s causing them to break on the ball faster. Not higher zone, man directly goes with route running. zone does not.