Brian Dawkins - totally underwhelming so far - has someone maxed him out to 90?

Okoye is an animal. Using him and Fred Taylor. Best backfield I've used all year. Although just by looking at the stats Kyle VB. Looks the best for the 90s. The Te,Fb and Dawkins look the best for 91s.

highsierra2024 said:

I upgraded him to 90 and played 3 games but is a no show. Really disappointed.
Obviously 3 games is not enough for a verdict so I'll continue to give him a chance. 

I'm also utterly disappointed by Champ Bailey who is fast moving towards Chomp Bailey.
Acquired him yesterday and in 10+ games he is invisible or giving up passes. Playing him at CB1. DeJean moved to CB2 and he continues to be a pick, cover and tackle machine. Well, it's too early as well and I hope the investment pays sooner or later.

"... I'm also utterly disappointed by Champ Bailey who is fast moving towards Chomp Bailey."

I agree. I really do wonder what attributes control whether Bailey is alive and awake at times. Is it AWR, PRC, ACC, etc? He seems to always be a step behind and/or playing zone in man defenses. Unlike previous versions.

Agree on BDawk....hard diagree on the convo re: Champ.

Have Kirkland and Dawkins at 90 OVR and they are both good and killer free goods. Just wish Dawkins got lurk artist at 91OVR/tier 3.

I have him to a 90 and he plays fine for me. Eagles TT though

Most of these guys minus the RE are barely usable until 90-91.  i moved Dawkins to FS since I have too many SS already. He makes tackles but somewhat invisible. Was going to maybe move him back to SS and pickup demarr to play at FS. 
 

dawkins man coverage makes him a liability so he’s a user imo until the 91 ticket is accessible

At 86 he’ll be underwhelming cuz of all the new players out but at 90 he’ll be good just max him out and if you don’t like him then use it on someone else

does anyone know when the 91 ovr tokens will be released in the shop

N00bSnipArmy said:

does anyone know when the 91 ovr tokens will be released in the shop

With Season 2, it was almost a month from launch until the 89 tokens were available.  I would expect the 91 token for another 3 weeks or so.

Yeah, and he still don’t start. trash. Good for kick off coverage

highsierra2024 said:

Hi,

I was very much looking forward to Dawkins and the first disappointment was that they made him a SS. I had expected him to play FS and so I sold Darwin a couple of days before the new promo hit.

I only have him at 86 so far (I know that some of his stats are not up to speed at 86 to compete with the newer cards) but even in Solo Season Amateur he gets beat by the CPU on a regular basis. Other 86 cards have played way better.

I have enough tickets to max him to 90 now but don't wanna waste tickets on him if he's a turd. How does he play for the those who have maxed him to 90 already?

On a sidenote: Bennett with his 78 speed has been playing great for me so it's not always only the sheer numbers on the stat sheet.

For deep safety help, regardless of Man or Zone schemes, i want height on our DBs.  BDawk simply does not have this -- unfortunately, he was the very first S3 card i chose, as well.  I'm still using the 88 OVR Rookie Premier, who is 88 SPD (on theme team) and nearly at that minimum 90 ZCV threshold i'd hope to see.  Beyond that, unless/until we get some useful coverage abilities, i think the meta is and will remain; Pick Artist because nobody can catch the damn ball.

The absolute best safeties in game (FS/SS, doesn't really matter, most can play both and retain team chems -- OOP does not matter) are; Ed Reed, maybe Brian Dawkins at 91 OVR (but we cannot get him there, so avoid for now, IMO) Brian Branch and Jordan Poyer.

Great, but perhaps not truly elite cards would be; Justin Reid, Antoinne Winfield Jr., Damar Hamlin, Kamren Curl, J'Ayir Brown, Pat Tillman & Kyle Hamilton...

Just my two cents, but ultimately, the three factors that help determine a truly elite safety would be; speed and 90+ ZCV, with height being a nice to have.  For the record, i'm using Pat Tillman and Kyle Hamilton, as well as the freebie Rookie Premier i mentioned already.

He’s trash!!!

The 90 ovr with pick artist has been a monster for me

I maxed him out and then realized that he’s not even better than Hit Man, so I just took them off of him and put them in Okoye