Cards seem more expensive and money is harder to get?

blamppp said:

so you want people to show up daily to work and program & create graphics & content but you don't want to spend any money on a spend money style mode? you want bland & deion but don't want to spend money or coins to get them, how does any of that make any sense? you basically are crying about getting something for free, you want MUT to provide you with the best cowboys theme team for super cheap while you hoard coins and don't spend them or any money? 

so you don't care about the guy that created the deion or bland artwork? he shouldn't get paid? the people that announce & create the content shouldn't get paid? because you want to be cheap & hoard coins? I don't think that makes any sense and don't think that's the way things work.

it's also a catch22 for MUT creators & developers because they have people on both sides of the coins and both side just want the best cards / teams as cheap as possible while excluding the other side.

people in competitive and streamers want the best cards and you not to be able to afford them so they have the top team & content....... that same streamer you are watching cry about it to rile you up has the top player at every position and spends all the time. U think that guy is on your side but he's not.

First off, I bought the game with money so I paid my price of admission to the EA circus and feel no guilt if EA can’t pay the cleaning lady without milking an average of $1,000 in pack sales from every user. 
 

Those who don’t spend money on packs still have a huge value to EA just by logging in every day and engaging.

blamppp said:

this is such a small minded short sighted way of thinking, if mut doesn't exist do they still get a salary? c'mon man. u think MUT is just going to create everything free so you can play it all year long w/o spending anything additional? NOT HAPPENING.

if your mad play REGS........ the gaming industry has evolved from the 80's

I have never seen so many promos with only paid cards and packs and so little rewards for those of us who grind 

that’s my issue

jaybird said:

First off, I bought the game with money so I paid my price of admission to the EA circus and feel no guilt if EA can’t pay the cleaning lady without milking an average of $1,000 in pack sales from every user. 
 

Those who don’t spend money on packs still have a huge value to EA just by logging in every day and engaging.

if you follow the gaming industry then you'd know your price of admission is basically regs & all other modes, then the free items that come with mut. you get what you paid for.

huge value just by playing daily logging in & engaging? who lied to you? if everybody did that this mode would end overnight.

nymets945 said:

I have never seen so many promos with only paid cards and packs and so little rewards for those of us who grind 

that’s my issue

how is it little rewards? my team could easily be 90 ovr with ZERO money spent. I think your team can only possibly be 92? if they gave you any "MORE REWARDS" the mode wouldn't even make sense and people would be complaining on the other end that NMS is too overpowered.

blamppp said:

this is such a small minded short sighted way of thinking, if mut doesn't exist do they still get a salary? c'mon man. u think MUT is just going to create everything free so you can play it all year long w/o spending anything additional? NOT HAPPENING.

if your mad play REGS........ the gaming industry has evolved from the 80's

You’re heavily overestimating the amount of work it takes to design card art and to release a few cards a week. 

You’re also stuck on the idea of free. NMS is not a completely free experience if you have to spend X amount of hours per day to keep up. All the players you mentioned, sure, they work. But they are already weeks/months outdated, some are 5+ speed slower than new cards being released. You simply aren’t truly competitive if all of your players are that much slower. 

EA could easily improve pack odds, add solos and sets for the new programs. They can add more offers in the store, better offers that actually tempt people to buy. When the content and deals are better, people buy more packs. Cards aren’t regularly 2 million each. Every side wins.

HEV said:

You’re heavily overestimating the amount of work it takes to design card art and to release a few cards a week. 

You’re also stuck on the idea of free. NMS is not a completely free experience if you have to spend X amount of hours per day to keep up. All the players you mentioned, sure, they work. But they are already weeks/months outdated, some are 5+ speed slower than new cards being released. You simply aren’t truly competitive if all of your players are that much slower. 

EA could easily improve pack odds, add solos and sets for the new programs. They can add more offers in the store, better offers that actually tempt people to buy. When the content and deals are better, people buy more packs. Cards aren’t regularly 2 million each. Every side wins.

i'm actually a graphic designer so nah i'm not overestimating it at all. it takes alot of time & effort to show up & create tons of cards for programs etc. you should try it sometime instead of just assuming. hop in photoshop and create 50 cards a week and see how you do with it.

NMS is a completely free experience, your hours don't mean anything to a company/money revenue. where you work that just showing up creates revenue? never seen that before.

none of the cards I mentioned are outdated at all, i'm playing w/ every card I mentioned right now, im atleast 75% win rate w/ a NMS team..... I do have a money spent team, the win rate is no better with all top players.

so you want them to improve pack odds? for what? so you can have some sense of a better digital card? if everybody had all the top cards the game would be more boring than you already consider it, nobody would even care about the cards, bad pack odds creates the chase.

not really true, about people buy more packs if the content and pack odds are better, because when you fill ya team up early and there is nothing to chase you think you buy packs then? I don't think so.

everybody just complaining wants more more more for less less less.... nothing they are actually saying makes any sense.

blamppp said:

i'm actually a graphic designer so nah i'm not overestimating it at all. it takes alot of time & effort to show up & create tons of cards for programs etc. you should try it sometime instead of just assuming. hop in photoshop and create 50 cards a week and see how you do with it.

NMS is a completely free experience, your hours don't mean anything to a company/money revenue. where you work that just showing up creates revenue? never seen that before.

none of the cards I mentioned are outdated at all, i'm playing w/ every card I mentioned right now, im atleast 75% win rate w/ a NMS team..... I do have a money spent team, the win rate is no better with all top players.

so you want them to improve pack odds? for what? so you can have some sense of a better digital card? if everybody had all the top cards the game would be more boring than you already consider it, nobody would even care about the cards, bad pack odds creates the chase.

not really true, about people buy more packs if the content and pack odds are better, because when you fill ya team up early and there is nothing to chase you think you buy packs then? I don't think so.

everybody just complaining wants more more more for less less less.... nothing they are actually saying makes any sense.

Nothing makes sense when you refuse to consider people can think differently. 

We will agree to disagree. I appreciate your input.

blamppp said:

how is it little rewards? my team could easily be 90 ovr with ZERO money spent. I think your team can only possibly be 92? if they gave you any "MORE REWARDS" the mode wouldn't even make sense and people would be complaining on the other end that NMS is too overpowered.

I personally think it was fine in previous years this years is a lot less rewards

TheNickSix said:

Cover Athletes, and Monday mix up are the only 2 "money only" promo so far, blitz had a little bit of free content but is also a mostly money spent promo. This will probably be the final straw for a lot of NMS players though, because these cards are all way too expensive, and since we won't buy them with real money, but also won't spend an egregious amount of coins on one card. Seems like CFM may be the better place to play

You couldn't get anything good during Blitz without spending a lot. I don't mind dropping $20-$25 for a good deal but Blitz sucked with that. And one "money only" promo is more than enough don't you think? Give us sets and challenges we can do to get cards, does everything need to cost money in a game as bad as Madden? Team Diamonds suck too lol

blamppp said:

how is it little rewards? my team could easily be 90 ovr with ZERO money spent. I think your team can only possibly be 92? if they gave you any "MORE REWARDS" the mode wouldn't even make sense and people would be complaining on the other end that NMS is too overpowered.

When did you start playing MUT? Just curious because old MUTs used to have gauntlets, journeys, MUT Master, challenges that gave you a top end card. The rewards this year have been horrendous

SportsPerson94 said:

When did you start playing MUT? Just curious because old MUTs used to have gauntlets, journeys, MUT Master, challenges that gave you a top end card. The rewards this year have been horrendous

field pass & competitive pass all give you top tier rewards now, it's just formatted different, if you are a challenge guy I see the complaint, but i'm not a challenge guy so I actually like it better, i'm a h2h only player. so getting the rewards in a competitive setting without having to do challenges is perfect for me.

how are we not getting top tier rewards? vick, barry, kearse, palo-mao, woolen, bruce mathews, woodson, hendricks, mike evans.... we are getting all type of players free just like we always have.......

when did i start playing mut? i've played mut since day 1 of it's existence, every year. we have just as much content as ever, just formatted different w/o as many solos.

nymets945 said:

I personally think it was fine in previous years this years is a lot less rewards

how is it less rewards though? field pass, competitive pass, etc give you a 89-90 range team. top team is 92, show me exactly whats less.

blamppp said:

how is it less rewards though? field pass, competitive pass, etc give you a 89-90 range team. top team is 92, show me exactly whats less.

They went from champion and BND at the end of passes to champion only, the legends we used to get in the comp pass is now 83+  legend packs, removal of dailies every day reflected in the program passes and the cover athlete and mixed up programs are pay only when we used to have wild card wednesdays

i don’t know how it’s possible anyone can be ok with ea‘s methods this year

nymets945 said:

They went from champion and BND at the end of passes to champion only, the legends we used to get in the comp pass is now 83+  legend packs, removal of dailies every day reflected in the program passes and the cover athlete and mixed up programs are pay only when we used to have wild card wednesdays

i don’t know how it’s possible anyone can be ok with ea‘s methods this year

so you are angry you don't get 5 89's from harvest, a full legend, and would have to pay at a chance for a several million coin card.

you do get a couple free 89's from the harvest program just not from the sets, you could buy a full legend from the auction house for like 100-200k with the coins you made playing mut, and if you don't like pay only programs why are you playing a pay to play mode? that doesn't really make alot of sense, you want the top tier card for NMS? why would anyone buy anything or play the mode if you could do that easily? what would be the point? everybody would have everything and everycard and it would be boring as hell. they have to create some type of card gap to make cards interesting and of value, otherwise everything would be just trash, gronk & sherman would never be a high price like that if there was no pay window, every card would just be cheap & nobody would care.