Defensive Rally

kaotikords said:

Ahhhh I remember reading that but forgot you write it

All good man, you remembered the only real important part. The squares on the play art are the only players that will get a pass rush point restored

TheChamp22 said:

It wont help Haley because he's a OLB not a true DE. D rally only gives extra pass rush points to DE's and DT's.

It actually doesn’t matter if they’re DT/DE/OLB it only matters where they’re lined up. If they are lined up where there is a “square” shape on the play art they will get the restored pass rush point.

SlowAndSteady said:

It actually doesn’t matter if they’re DT/DE/OLB it only matters where they’re lined up. If they are lined up where there is a “square” shape on the play art they will get the restored pass rush point.

woah.... actually? Kinda crazy then in a 4 man front like I run in BNOG. Always have used Simmons and then run DE's but if you can run OLB's too that's pretty crazy.

Just checked on Abilities.fyi and your right, only says D linemen nothing on position.

TheChamp22 said:

woah.... actually? Kinda crazy then in a 4 man front like I run in BNOG. Always have used Simmons and then run DE's but if you can run OLB's too that's pretty crazy.

Just checked on Abilities.fyi and your right, only says D linemen nothing on position.

Yeah I did a ton of testing back in late December/early January I think to determine how D Rally/Pass Rush points work. I posted the link earlier in this thread if you want to check it out.

The crazy thing is if guys are running something like Dime 14 and they have D Rally on any of their players it is literally only giving their DT a restored pass rush point.

SlowAndSteady said:

Yeah I did a ton of testing back in late December/early January I think to determine how D Rally/Pass Rush points work. I posted the link earlier in this thread if you want to check it out.

The crazy thing is if guys are running something like Dime 14 and they have D Rally on any of their players it is literally only giving their DT a restored pass rush point.

makes sense, with it technically only having 1 actual linemen. I'll have to take a look, have gone away from Simmons recently for gravedigger in the run game, but might go back. I've always found DE's play better for me in my base 4 rush (exception being LT), so I've always favored them. Might try that Haley card now as my other end.

TheChamp22 said:

makes sense, with it technically only having 1 actual linemen. I'll have to take a look, have gone away from Simmons recently for gravedigger in the run game, but might go back. I've always found DE's play better for me in my base 4 rush (exception being LT), so I've always favored them. Might try that Haley card now as my other end.

It for sure makes sense, I just think there has to be a bunch of people out there using D Rally that have no idea that it isn’t really helping them.

Haley has been the best pass rusher I’ve used and his ability combo is crazy cheap.

Also if you have the coins Madmaxx should be in everyone’s lineup for his X-factor and he gets 0AP D Rally. His X-factor is active for 4 defensive downs but it only counts them when he‘s on the field. You could sub him in on 3rd downs or even wait to sub him in only when the o-line resistance has built up.

SlowAndSteady said:

It for sure makes sense, I just think there has to be a bunch of people out there using D Rally that have no idea that it isn’t really helping them.

Haley has been the best pass rusher I’ve used and his ability combo is crazy cheap.

Also if you have the coins Madmaxx should be in everyone’s lineup for his X-factor and he gets 0AP D Rally. His X-factor is active for 4 defensive downs but it only counts them when he‘s on the field. You could sub him in on 3rd downs or even wait to sub him in only when the o-line resistance has built up.

smart, I don;t like spending AP on my Dline for the most part, Rocking Bosa, Gravedigger, Randle and Bruce Smith. Only spend the 1ap on Bosa for ETE and try to get a bunch of 0ap abilites for the other guys, hence still using Bruce. I use secondary FMV boost on my Ball hawk to get Bosa up to 99FMV as well, I rely in my base 4 man rush to get home and have good coverage behind, and  I rarely blitz unlike most players. 

Think I'll try Maxx tonight with D rally instead of Bruce, thanks!

TheChamp22 said:

smart, I don;t like spending AP on my Dline for the most part, Rocking Bosa, Gravedigger, Randle and Bruce Smith. Only spend the 1ap on Bosa for ETE and try to get a bunch of 0ap abilites for the other guys, hence still using Bruce. I use secondary FMV boost on my Ball hawk to get Bosa up to 99FMV as well, I rely in my base 4 man rush to get home and have good coverage behind, and  I rarely blitz unlike most players. 

Think I'll try Maxx tonight with D rally instead of Bruce, thanks!

Sounds like a great setup. Maxx should only make it even better for you!

SlowAndSteady said:

Sounds like a great setup. Maxx should only make it even better for you!

for sure... Maxx has high FMV which I prefer at end too.