How we feelin' about the state of Defense in MUT ?

After playing a couple more games I feel like 

- Tackling has gotten even worse (no idea how they even managed that)
- Deep zones play absolutely nothing
- A gap pressure had been nerfed already
- Blocksheds are completely dead 
- Run game is back (kinda)

So the funny thing is that they patched MidBlitz or at least the A gap pressure from it but one of the only effective ways to play defense rn is play man, send everybody and pray - basically what Mid Blitz was. 
I know they want MUT to be as accessible to as many players as possible but I've never seen them basically patch defense out of the game to where anybody can score at will.

Ive actually had to put down the sticks for a min, cant run man bc everyone is running that glitchy auto motion wheel from bunch x nasty.  zones are broken AGAIN.  Every game I play is 60-70 pts.  No consistent blitz/pressure

100% simply put the Def is 100% Pure ass and has been since Launch hands down worst Madden for Def ever.

Honestly could disagree more. I have really no problems getting stops have good defense out of penny and I use avalanche Wildman. So I just worry about the deeper stuff and eventually they get caught lacking going to drags and get lit up for a fumble. Even then I run a completely different style on zone and man. Extremely hybrid. And have a pretty consistent blitz behind that. Hard to run on me and need at least everyone on defense to be at least 80 hit power. I welcome the short throws lol.

SALWAY said:

Honestly could disagree more. I have really no problems getting stops have good defense out of penny and I use avalanche Wildman. So I just worry about the deeper stuff and eventually they get caught lacking going to drags and get lit up for a fumble. Even then I run a completely different style on zone and man. Extremely hybrid. And have a pretty consistent blitz behind that. Hard to run on me and need at least everyone on defense to be at least 80 hit power. I welcome the short throws lol.

Dont hurt yourself patting yourself on the back lol.
Everybody including pros says Defense is terrible right now. Good for you that you enjoy it tho.

Ducati0307 said:

I've been playing both the current gen and old gen versions of the game... and in my opinion, the current gen version is just not enjoyable.  After grinding through two seasons... I think I'm done with it.

Anyone who says gameplay is better on current gen is lying to themselves.

You all should start a movement to head back to old gen where it's actually fun to play defense.

I'm DEF not here to try and pretend that anything about the "next-gen" gameplay experience is enjoyable, let alone actually fun (nor fair, nor balanced, nor anything even closely resembling competitive)... but i never could get used to the way players on old-gen sort of ice skated around the field.  Sure they felt faster, but player movement was just strange.

The whole renewed focus on Boom Tech for M25 seems liek yet another huge waste of limited dev resources, similar to last year's catalogue.  Who asked for this nonsense?  I'd be totally fine with reverting player movement and contact back to how things were last year, the only minor adjustment that needed to be made was jarring the ball loose after actually landing Hit Sticks, which almost never happened.  There are years upon years of community feedback that continually get ignored.

I'm not convinced they actually understand their own code base, let alone have any Devs with sufficient talent to make meaningful changes to gameplay.  I'm glad you gave this next-gen experience the ole college try, but cannot hate you for going back to what you know and love.

This is an objectively bad game.  It's literally the only game in town, as far as modern NFL titles go.  Free market, baby!

PBateman said:

After playing a couple more games I feel like 

- Tackling has gotten even worse (no idea how they even managed that)
- Deep zones play absolutely nothing
- A gap pressure had been nerfed already
- Blocksheds are completely dead 
- Run game is back (kinda)

So the funny thing is that they patched MidBlitz or at least the A gap pressure from it but one of the only effective ways to play defense rn is play man, send everybody and pray - basically what Mid Blitz was. 
I know they want MUT to be as accessible to as many players as possible but I've never seen them basically patch defense out of the game to where anybody can score at will.

Some really great summaries of the current stack of Madden/MUT, appreciate your detailed breakdowns.  My entire reason for picking the game up was to enjoy some online H2H, but i'm done being caught in that never-ending hamster wheel, chasing the top end cards for that extra 1-2% on a quest to Min/Max our squads.  Disappointed in myself for falling prey to the NCAA/M25 game bundle over the summer.

peatrick said:

I'm DEF not here to try and pretend that anything about the "next-gen" gameplay experience is enjoyable, let alone actually fun (nor fair, nor balanced, nor anything even closely resembling competitive)... but i never could get used to the way players on old-gen sort of ice skated around the field.  Sure they felt faster, but player movement was just strange.

The whole renewed focus on Boom Tech for M25 seems liek yet another huge waste of limited dev resources, similar to last year's catalogue.  Who asked for this nonsense?  I'd be totally fine with reverting player movement and contact back to how things were last year, the only minor adjustment that needed to be made was jarring the ball loose after actually landing Hit Sticks, which almost never happened.  There are years upon years of community feedback that continually get ignored.

I'm not convinced they actually understand their own code base, let alone have any Devs with sufficient talent to make meaningful changes to gameplay.  I'm glad you gave this next-gen experience the ole college try, but cannot hate you for going back to what you know and love.

This is an objectively bad game.  It's literally the only game in town, as far as modern NFL titles go.  Free market, baby!

I agree that user movement on old gen is a bit odd... but it's fast.  That's what I love.

PBateman said:

Dont hurt yourself patting yourself on the back lol.
Everybody including pros says Defense is terrible right now. Good for you that you enjoy it tho.

Yeah kinda pulled a tricep on that one. 🤣 and for the record I try to incorporate as many bnds as possible. Just for shits and gigs. Cooper Dejean at Cb2, Vanden Bosch at dt, Burns at re, Poyer fs , Kyle Hamilton at nb1. Tillman at ss. Are the only ones that make the cut atm. Will be adding deablo with lurk artist once we can get him.

I would say they one thing that has been improved this year so far* is that Man coverage seems to be better then it was in MUT 24, though it is still not as good as it was in games such has MUT 21. 

That being said, man coverage is about the only thing that has been improved, everything else has gotten worse. Now you basically just have to pray that your opponent makes multiple bad read's, cause even if they just make one, their WR/TE will still find a way to catch the ball over the defender covering them.

MCS confirms this thread basically. A TD against Prevent Defense in a MCS game was comical ah

SALWAY said:

Honestly could disagree more. I have really no problems getting stops have good defense out of penny and I use avalanche Wildman. So I just worry about the deeper stuff and eventually they get caught lacking going to drags and get lit up for a fumble. Even then I run a completely different style on zone and man. Extremely hybrid. And have a pretty consistent blitz behind that. Hard to run on me and need at least everyone on defense to be at least 80 hit power. I welcome the short throws lol.

^dude must play solo battles and solo season or is totally out of it when he wrote it. Lmao

hulksmashr2 said:

^dude must play solo battles and solo season or is totally out of it when he wrote it. Lmao

Bro acting like he's the Mike Macdonald of Madden lmao. MCS says it all. If they have no defense on that level, then there is none. 
But lets let buddy have his HOF legacy as a great defensive mind in solo battles if he enjoys it.

PBateman said:

Bro acting like he's the Mike Macdonald of Madden lmao. MCS says it all. If they have no defense on that level, then there is none. 
But lets let buddy have his HOF legacy as a great defensive mind in solo battles if he enjoys it.

Nah more like Vance Joseph, blitz like 80 percent of the time. Also maybe you should learn to control the clock.  Really changes the flow of the game when you only get two possessions. If you can consistenly take away peoples money/deep routes it seems as if they get bored of the short stuff and just force it now and again, plus them not having the ball most of the game really fucks with alot of people.