...I'm guaranteed sweat-fests against cheesers.
Games like this should be enjoyable 24 hours a day, and not be a minefield of sorry losers who know how to exploit bad coding, but don't know the first thing about football.
...I'm guaranteed sweat-fests against cheesers.
Games like this should be enjoyable 24 hours a day, and not be a minefield of sorry losers who know how to exploit bad coding, but don't know the first thing about football.
phatalerror said:...I'm guaranteed sweat-fests against cheesers.
Games like this should be enjoyable 24 hours a day, and not be a minefield of sorry losers who know how to exploit bad coding, but don't know the first thing about football.
I forgot: Sweat-fests where my opponent is getting insta-sheds, but where they can throw into double-coverage and my guy drops the pick. Just stupid, stupid. Have to guess where my opponent will go with the football up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right... it's Konami in the 80's again, but not even a tenth as fun.
I think MUT community is worst
JuanT said:I think MUT community is worst
its certainly up there
Night time in USA is day time where I live so that's all I get most of the time unless I play at 3am here. EA could just limit amount of play calls per play but don't because 95% would get mad they'd actually have to get some real skills instead of calling instant sacks from YT spam cheese maggot plays. They have no balls and are all cowards. Now I can't even spike the ball all game and waste their time like how they are wasting mine, because ea removes me even without any delay of game flags. EA is pro spam cheese 💯
JuanT said:I think MUT community is worst
Yup 💯. By far the worst. Still the only one that had a player bang bang up the tournament. Madden is awful. Dudes be proud to beat kids with 2 plays for 1000+ games.
Honestly as someone who much prefers playing realistic football, where we are at with abilities what do you expect? Super Bowl and maybe the next set of ltds ability wise is where we should be at by this point of the season. The fact we’ve got corners who can knock out from 5 yards away on tight ends known for abusing corners. 250lb ‘interior’ linemen like Klecko abusing 300lb iol with special abilities, make it make sense. so yeah it’s not fun at all, but the only way round it is to play screens and play actions to have any room for the catch to count, it’s just awful. so unless someone is doing something other than covering centre and strong and out I’ll just run corners/verts/screens/pac. it’s not just about winning, it’s about proving to the person who starts the spam cheese, that I’m better than they are 🤷🏻♂️😂
Last night I played the dude who’s #15 in the old gen leaderboard and didn’t even realize it. Played him twice actually and went 1-1, and he wasn’t even very good. first game was 21-14 win second was 22-20 loss
TheSeattle206 said:Last night I played the dude who’s #15 in the old gen leaderboard and didn’t even realize it. Played him twice actually and went 1-1, and he wasn’t even very good. first game was 21-14 win second was 22-20 loss
Not trying to take away ur glory but being in the top 100 doesn’t mean anything. He probably played like 3000 games and won 1500 of them. That’s why he’s ranked so high. half of the people on the leaderboards are trash and half are actually good.
not advocating for the cheesers by any means, but what is the cheese you guys are struggling with specifically? I know this is an open forum and a great place to go to complain and vent your frustrations, but when you try to break the game down and understand it most of these "cheese plays" are stoppable. Instead of whining about it, what are we doing to understand and combat it and get better?
I'm not trying to be mean, but this forum is also a great place to say "I'm getting shredded by a dude who only runs double posts, what do i do?" so that you can get better, stop struggling, and have more fun.
TheNickSix said:not advocating for the cheesers by any means, but what is the cheese you guys are struggling with specifically? I know this is an open forum and a great place to go to complain and vent your frustrations, but when you try to break the game down and understand it most of these "cheese plays" are stoppable. Instead of whining about it, what are we doing to understand and combat it and get better?
I'm not trying to be mean, but this forum is also a great place to say "I'm getting shredded by a dude who only runs double posts, what do i do?" so that you can get better, stop struggling, and have more fun.
Not struggling with any one cheese. I'm struggling to stop Vanguard stretch runs and RPO's and rollout cheese and underneath passes on 4-and-12 where RNG says my guys cannot have a sack that play and the Max Protect receiver goes to the ground ahead of the sticks, interspersed with that stupid corner route that gets behind the safety in cover 3 if I'm not usering someone back there already.
It's not any one cheese, because I can stop that. It's having to stop all the kinds of cheese. It's having to concede games because the RNG says my opponent gets permanent insta-shed, but I have to scratch and scrape for firsts despite knockouts and never getting that crazy burst of speed my opponent's halfback always seems to get from the snap.
It's having to dedicate so many resources to stop every kind of cheese and getting beat in the video game equivalent of Roshambo. And then not getting the RNG I need on my side of the ball to win a straight up fight without relying on broken plays.
The best advice for this situation is to cheese back. And the thought of doing so is abhorrent. So unless I get some RNG breaks, I simply lose these games.
But thank you for the kind offer.
phatalerror said:Not struggling with any one cheese. I'm struggling to stop Vanguard stretch runs and RPO's and rollout cheese and underneath passes on 4-and-12 where RNG says my guys cannot have a sack that play and the Max Protect receiver goes to the ground ahead of the sticks, interspersed with that stupid corner route that gets behind the safety in cover 3 if I'm not usering someone back there already.
It's not any one cheese, because I can stop that. It's having to stop all the kinds of cheese. It's having to concede games because the RNG says my opponent gets permanent insta-shed, but I have to scratch and scrape for firsts despite knockouts and never getting that crazy burst of speed my opponent's halfback always seems to get from the snap.
It's having to dedicate so many resources to stop every kind of cheese and getting beat in the video game equivalent of Roshambo. And then not getting the RNG I need on my side of the ball to win a straight up fight without relying on broken plays.
The best advice for this situation is to cheese back. And the thought of doing so is abhorrent. So unless I get some RNG breaks, I simply lose these games.
But thank you for the kind offer.
So true.
phatalerror said:Not struggling with any one cheese. I'm struggling to stop Vanguard stretch runs and RPO's and rollout cheese and underneath passes on 4-and-12 where RNG says my guys cannot have a sack that play and the Max Protect receiver goes to the ground ahead of the sticks, interspersed with that stupid corner route that gets behind the safety in cover 3 if I'm not usering someone back there already.
It's not any one cheese, because I can stop that. It's having to stop all the kinds of cheese. It's having to concede games because the RNG says my opponent gets permanent insta-shed, but I have to scratch and scrape for firsts despite knockouts and never getting that crazy burst of speed my opponent's halfback always seems to get from the snap.
It's having to dedicate so many resources to stop every kind of cheese and getting beat in the video game equivalent of Roshambo. And then not getting the RNG I need on my side of the ball to win a straight up fight without relying on broken plays.
The best advice for this situation is to cheese back. And the thought of doing so is abhorrent. So unless I get some RNG breaks, I simply lose these games.
But thank you for the kind offer.
Well you’re playing mut in July with 140 abilities on the field. Put it down for 2 months and come back when the gameplay is fresh and not as arcadey.
but it sounds to me like what you struggle with is recognizing formations and anticipating what your opponent might call from those sets. Vanguards is really cheesy for sure, but Rollouts, Corner routes, Tackling a short route on 4th and 12, that’s all on you. Those are defendable, mostly by the same defense. Blame the game if you want but that’s not gonna help you get better.
TheNickSix said:Well you’re playing mut in July with 140 abilities on the field. Put it down for 2 months and come back when the gameplay is fresh and not as arcadey.
but it sounds to me like what you struggle with is recognizing formations and anticipating what your opponent might call from those sets. Vanguards is really cheesy for sure, but Rollouts, Corner routes, Tackling a short route on 4th and 12, that’s all on you. Those are defendable, mostly by the same defense. Blame the game if you want but that’s not gonna help you get better.
where RNG says my guys cannot have a sack that play
It's not like he threw where my user was (and, yes, I give up plenty of user-defended catches; not claiming perfection here). My defensive line got zero pressure. He had all day. A guy leaked out, and I couldn't get there in time.
As for recognizing formations and anticipating, I'm not getting most of these calls wrong. On the other hand, Film Study is pretty much worthless when you're revealing an RPO play for the eighth time, and the guy just keeps no-huddling and going where my user isn't, and converting his third third down in a row.
It's not about being good at the game at this point. 140 abilities or not, it's become about cheese, and needing at least slightly favorable RNG for anything good to happen if you aren't fighting cheese with cheese.