99 OVR Super Bowl LVIII MVP: Patrick Mahomes (Light Years Better Than Honors Lamar)

Mishkabigcat said:

Nowhere was it said people can’t win games without release or abilities. QB1 was relating to best qb in the game. Without trad 4 a QB will never be the best in the game. Release and SFL are the 2 most important attributes to how good the QB is. It is simply smarter to use a QB with best release vs Trash release. In lower leagues release doesn’t matter as much, in higher leagues it’s a difference between a sack or a completion. Is this simple enough?

You don't have to keep explaining it. 

I completely understand what you're saying and what i have been and still will be saying is  the only people who care about release are the ones that run an offense built around THAT release and THAT release only makes it work. IMO those people aren't very good at the game and their opinions about who QB1 is shouldn't matter. They're regurgitating words like they regurgitate  plays

itscush2push said:

You don't have to keep explaining it. 

I completely understand what you're saying and what i have been and still will be saying is  the only people who care about release are the ones that run an offense built around THAT release and THAT release only makes it work. IMO those people aren't very good at the game and their opinions about who QB1 is shouldn't matter. They're regurgitating words like they regurgitate  plays

No scheme is based on a release lol.. now I think you’re just talking out of your ass. People care about release because it makes the throws faster.

itscush2push said:

You don't have to keep explaining it. 

I completely understand what you're saying and what i have been and still will be saying is  the only people who care about release are the ones that run an offense built around THAT release and THAT release only makes it work. IMO those people aren't very good at the game and their opinions about who QB1 is shouldn't matter. They're regurgitating words like they regurgitate  plays

Listen, you do your thing and that's fine. But you take 2 equal skill players and give one a QB with a crap release and the other with Trad 4 and SFL and he's got an advantage. Period.

Whether you believe it, like it, or whatever. It's fact. 

May not be for you, but you play someone of equal skill in a game where you both have a good pass rush and need to throw the ball and you are going to lose 8 out of 10 times.....now again, it is a video game so winning may not be important which is fine...I get that aspect of it.  But on these forums people are discussing the best cards to use in order to play their best and win games. 

And as for "running an offense built around a QB release", WTF are you talking about? Do NFL GMs go out and get crappy QBs with slower releases , throw power, etc, because it "fits their scheme"? Who TF goes out and gets a lesser player intentionally? ANYTIME you can get a QB with a faster release IRL or Madden, it's a benefit

Mishkabigcat said:

No scheme is based on a release lol.. now I think you’re just talking out of your ass. People care about release because it makes the throws faster.

Dude, he's a troll. Always has been.

Mishkabigcat said:

No scheme is based on a release lol.. now I think you’re just talking out of your ass. People care about release because it makes the throws faster.

Then why does Traditional 4 matter so much to y'all if its not schemed based?

itscush2push said:

You don't have to keep explaining it. 

I completely understand what you're saying and what i have been and still will be saying is  the only people who care about release are the ones that run an offense built around THAT release and THAT release only makes it work. IMO those people aren't very good at the game and their opinions about who QB1 is shouldn't matter. They're regurgitating words like they regurgitate  plays

While I don't agree with everything you say, I do agree with some things.

I do worry/pay attention to a QB's release yes, but it's obv that release is not all that matters/effects the outcome of games (but but it plays a big role imo). If you only look at a certain aspect of a card and judge it based off of that, then you're def not doing the right thing. 

Personally I haven't had the best experiences with Mahomes cards. I don't build my offense around a certain card or aspect of that card and I did try different things with Mahomes cards like switch up my abilities and mess around with different schemes, but I never really had the best experiences with his cards. I don't consider myself to be a bad player, I win most of my games and find ways to win without relying on meta plays/schemes/cards. I do consider myself a bad player when I have Mahomes at QB.

Martyr1968 said:

Dude, he's a troll. Always has been.

You only say this because you disagree with a lot of what I say which is fine. We don't play the game the same way, you put a lot of time money and effort into the fancy rosters and the "QB1s", I did't  .  You built an Offense around  having the best of everything I didn't. 

To label me as a troll because such  is just  ignorance on your part.

itscush2push said:

Then why does Traditional 4 matter so much to y'all if its not schemed based?

Because it is faster, as I stated in previous post. It makes any scheme better, not the other way around. How can you be this clueless ?

MrAgentSochi said:

While I don't agree with everything you say, I do agree with some things.

I do worry/pay attention to a QB's release yes, but it's obv that release is not all that matters/effects the outcome of games (but but it plays a big role imo). If you only look at a certain aspect of a card and judge it based off of that, then you're def not doing the right thing. 

Personally I haven't had the best experiences with Mahomes cards. I don't build my offense around a certain card or aspect of that card and I did try different things with Mahomes cards like switch up my abilities and mess around with different schemes, but I never really had the best experiences with his cards. I don't consider myself to be a bad player, I win most of my games and find ways to win without relying on meta plays/schemes/cards. I do consider myself a bad player when I have Mahomes at QB.

If you're willing to try something new and not the same ol same ol just with new players, I give you 100% props my guy. I feel I may need to furter expand  on my OP and say; I would never label people who try new things as bad players, part of getting good at the game IMO is trying new things getting away from what works to figure out how to make something or someone work.  

The lesson is in the attrition

Mishkabigcat said:

Because it is faster, as I stated in previous post. It makes any scheme better, not the other way around. How can you be this clueless ?

Yet somehow "No scheme is based on a release lol."    and  yet  "Makes their scheme better" or  "Its the difference between a sack and a completion"

You're trying to eat out of both sides here homie. 

Good players build good schemes. Good players don't need releases to make their scheme better

itscush2push said:

QB1 is  the starting QB on your team nothing more nothing less.   If you're good enough at the game  you'll win no matter the QB. 

The "Hive Mind" who care and comment about release and abilities beng the "deciding factor"  cant win otherwise, because their whole Offense is predicated around animations and  not their own skill set.  

I assumed ( maybe wrongly?) that he was mocking that belief and I joined in mocking that belief.

QB1 means the best QB in mutt , with your your logic every QB is QB1  ,  People have strict theme teams also some real NMS people which could use  the free Vick still .  Stop trying to be a edge lord .  Its simple if you played someone with the exact same skill as you and he was using the (so called best QB ) and you were not  , you would lose more than you win . Obviously if you are elite you can win plenty of games with whoever you want . I'm positive  the best pool player in world can beat me with a broom stick but that doesn't mean the pool stick doesn't matter .

itscush2push said:

When you get a-gapped on every down, with 3 lit up d linemen and <2 seconds to throw, release is the most important aspect of a qb.

Make adjustments. everything can be countered.

I have used Joshy boy all year. 

Gunslinger and HRM  

I win more than i lose and I'm okay with that

You do understand the a gap blitz is a glitch right

Massadolphin said:

QB1 means the best QB in mutt , with your your logic every QB is QB1  ,  People have strict theme teams also some real NMS people which could use  the free Vick still .  Stop trying to be a edge lord .  Its simple if you played someone with the exact same skill as you and he was using the (so called best QB ) and you were not  , you would lose more than you win . Obviously if you are elite you can win plenty of games with whoever you want . I'm positive  the best pool player in world can beat me with a broom stick but that doesn't mean the pool stick doesn't matter .

The best QB in MUT is subjective to the person doing the judging.   Thank you for agreeing with me

Tpbv9 said:

You do understand the a gap blitz is a glitch right

You do understand you can make adjustments and come out in other formations that don't have the word "Bunch" in the name.

I personally like split back sets myself against it