Just got shredded by a guy running IForm Hulk every play.

rv566577 said:

I played someone yesterday that ran every play, for the whole game, and constantly got 3 yards on a 4-3 defensive scheme, with the line pinched (when it wasn't an outside run) and DB's committed to the run.  I just don't see the fun in playing like that, and its too unrealistic.  This is supposed to be a simulation based on real NFL games, find one NFL game in the past 20 years (or in history) where not one pass was thrown.

That and Knockout abilities ruin the realism/game for me.

I understand what you're saying... but on the other hand I don't ever think of MUT as a football simulation.  It's more like chess to me where you have to come up with counters for a wide range of opponent's tactics in their attack.  And right now, I think we have to adapt to a lot of players wanting to run the ball with multiple glowing AKA backs plus the new GT Faalele.

TheNickSix said:

This man, football is a chess game. I'm gonna play to my strength until you beat it. Once you make me adjust I need to have a counter. If you can't beat my strengths that's your fault not mine. If I don't have a counter once you figure me out that's my fault. Too many people complain that they can't throw corner routes, or beaters every play, or run every play, or they think their man coverage should just box everything every play. madden is a complex game, you gotta figure out all the little nuances.

Right... on offense you can't be a one, two, or even three-trick pony.  Because eventually you'll come up against someone who can stop what you're doing.  I play so many opponents who will literally keep trying the same thing over and over (maybe with minor variations)... and eventually just quit.    Then I play them again and they try the same exact scheme.  

On defense... you have to be able to stop lots of different things.

Ya, like double corners is a great concept but if you run it out of Tight TE Offset Pa Shot seems every time you run it it’s too predictabl. I run double corner Concepts out of 4 different formations. Also formations I have a lot of runs aLBs play action out of. Also if you’re in cover 2/3 I have shot plays. offensively and defensively I try to make it look the same even though it’s different.

TheNickSix said:

This man, football is a chess game. I'm gonna play to my strength until you beat it. Once you make me adjust I need to have a counter. If you can't beat my strengths that's your fault not mine. If I don't have a counter once you figure me out that's my fault. Too many people complain that they can't throw corner routes, or beaters every play, or run every play, or they think their man coverage should just box everything every play. madden is a complex game, you gotta figure out all the little nuances.

I hear it. But chess doesn't involve making the same move every time does it? And if it did, you'd lose pretty damn quick.

A few people on this thread said what I think. People who just run 1 or 2 plays on both sides of the ball, particularly if they're reliant on the games inherently unrealistic physics etc, are probably winners but so what? Who really wants to win like that? For a couple of packs at the end of a SB???

I played a guy last night. It was his Div Champ and he came out with Henry at QB and Faalele at RB and ran an option ALL game. Not quite a bit. EVERY play. Seriously, why bother. How is that even remotely fun? Forget me, how is that fun for him!? Simulation football? Its not ANY kind of football!

EightyOne said:

I hear it. But chess doesn't involve making the same move every time does it? And if it did, you'd lose pretty damn quick.

A few people on this thread said what I think. People who just run 1 or 2 plays on both sides of the ball, particularly if they're reliant on the games inherently unrealistic physics etc, are probably winners but so what? Who really wants to win like that? For a couple of packs at the end of a SB???

I played a guy last night. It was his Div Champ and he came out with Henry at QB and Faalele at RB and ran an option ALL game. Not quite a bit. EVERY play. Seriously, why bother. How is that even remotely fun? Forget me, how is that fun for him!? Simulation football? Its not ANY kind of football!

Bruh trust me.  I've been there and felt the same exact way for a long time.  But that only led to frustration on my part.  

So now... if I get flooded by the latest cheese of the day...  I'll spend a few hours afterwards to find a way to stop whatever it is they were doing to me.

Anyways... thanks for the discussion.  I can definitely see both sides of this argument.

EightyOne said:

I hear it. But chess doesn't involve making the same move every time does it? And if it did, you'd lose pretty damn quick.

A few people on this thread said what I think. People who just run 1 or 2 plays on both sides of the ball, particularly if they're reliant on the games inherently unrealistic physics etc, are probably winners but so what? Who really wants to win like that? For a couple of packs at the end of a SB???

I played a guy last night. It was his Div Champ and he came out with Henry at QB and Faalele at RB and ran an option ALL game. Not quite a bit. EVERY play. Seriously, why bother. How is that even remotely fun? Forget me, how is that fun for him!? Simulation football? Its not ANY kind of football!

I can definitely agree with that. I played something similar, he would run pistol strong power option and do that glitchy hurdle and pitch. EVERY play! i set it to play qb aggressive to force the pitch and I'd just go tackle the rb, or run over and click off. nope, it's such a long pitch you can't even see them and even still you are 1v1 with a freight train. Like i guess winning is fun and all, but for what. These are the kinda people that loaded into RPG games and activated infinite health so they could never die.

Ducati0307 said:

Bruh trust me.  I've been there and felt the same exact way for a long time.  But that only led to frustration on my part.  

So now... if I get flooded by the latest cheese of the day...  I'll spend a few hours afterwards to find a way to stop whatever it is they were doing to me.

Anyways... thanks for the discussion.  I can definitely see both sides of this argument.

if i get flooded by the latest cheese i quit. it's not worth the time and energy. GGs they beat madden, good for them.