No Marvin Harrison Jr.

SosaChamberlain said:

You must be a OU fan, or a disappointed USC booster club member to see him play and assume he's a bust.

Neither. I'm just not dumb enough to fall for the hype like so many others in the past, or to allow the media to gaslight me on legitimate concerns about him.

TardWrangler said:

Neither. I'm just not dumb enough to fall for the hype like so many others in the past, or to allow the media to gaslight me on legitimate concerns about him.

My only concern with him is how will he handle the physicality of the NFL.  

I don't like men so I could care less how one carries himself off the field. He seems to be a hard worker and family oriented, what more do I need from my Qb1?

munck007 said:

But is this Issue the sticking point for the Caleb and Marvin camps and why they haven’t sign!

Is he the first player in NFL history to say hey 👋 if yall plan on hocking off my image and likeness cut the check cause obviously 🙄 him and Marvin Jr not signing yet for a reason especially considering w/Marvin he all ready knew he had to sign because of his father so obviously there’s a reason why he hasn’t JS

They may never sign as it's not required.  While they have signed to be part of the union for the NFLPA (which is required), they didn't sign the licensing agreement as that isn't required.  Maybe they both plan on manufacturing their own jerseys and selling them on their own and will try to work out their likeness deals with companies such as EA on their own.

SosaChamberlain said:

My only concern with him is how will he handle the physicality of the NFL.  

I don't like men so I could care less how one carries himself off the field. He seems to be a hard worker and family oriented, what more do I need from my Qb1?

I don't think he's going to handle it well.

You may, ignorantly, not care about he carries himself on and off the field, but men do. The teammates of a football player definitely don't want to be around someone constantly acting like a teenage girl, acting worse when things don't go their way. As it turns out, men tend to hate having to be around effeminate guys who constantly want to be told they're a man when their eyes tell them otherwise. And no one's said he isn't a hard worker, or that it's bad that he's family-oriented, that's just you and others parroting the same nonsense trying to hand-wave people with legitimate critiques/concerns. 

Hell, it's not like this is a completely new concept. I'm old enough to remember five minutes ago when Kyler was getting flack internally and externally about acting like a spoiled teenage boy, and it getting so bad that Arizona literally put in his contract that he had to watch film, because they were tired of him playing "Call of Duty" (we haven't had a real CoD in a decade, hence the quotes) all the time.

TardWrangler said:

I don't think he's going to handle it well.

You may, ignorantly, not care about he carries himself on and off the field, but men do. The teammates of a football player definitely don't want to be around someone constantly acting like a teenage girl, acting worse when things don't go their way. As it turns out, men tend to hate having to be around effeminate guys who constantly want to be told they're a man when their eyes tell them otherwise. And no one's said he isn't a hard worker, or that it's bad that he's family-oriented, that's just you and others parroting the same nonsense trying to hand-wave people with legitimate critiques/concerns. 

Hell, it's not like this is a completely new concept. I'm old enough to remember five minutes ago when Kyler was getting flack internally and externally about acting like a spoiled teenage boy, and it getting so bad that Arizona literally put in his contract that he had to watch film, because they were tired of him playing "Call of Duty" (we haven't had a real CoD in a decade, hence the quotes) all the time.

"You may, ignorantly, not care about he carries himself on and off the field, but men do."

LMFAOOOOOO

aye man if minding my business makes me ignorant, you got it bro.

TardWrangler said:

The Heisman's very often a joke, so I don't really care. If it always went to the most deserving player, then sure, but it doesn't (not that Caleb didn't earn it in '22). Y'all are just lagging behind seeing what people like me have seen for years now. That's fine, just remember that in 18 months. 

And no one ever ragged him for "loving his mom," it's the fact that he acts like a teenage girl when he wants to be treated like a man. If the worst thing on him was having a pink phone case, no one would care. But when he paints his nails like a girl, paints his nails to talk shit and gets popped in the mouth on the field, jumps the bleachers to cry in his mom's arms on live TV after a regular season loss, tells reporters, "I just wanna go home and cuddle my dog," etc. then I'm not the insane one for saying, "Yea, those are red flags for me." And I'm not saying this is a unique issue with him, there are plenty of guys in their teens and 20's who act like this, yet want everyone else to think they're a man. They're not, and normal people aren't going to be gaslit into believing that nonsense.

so you have a very narrow definition of what it means to be a man, is what I’m getting from this. No hate, but a dude who cares about winning and losing hugged his mom. A mature adult got assaulted and didn’t retaliate in a way that would harm his career. The only issue I would have is that imo dogs small enough to cuddle are cats, but I’m just a fan of big dogs. you seem to care a lot about how a 20 year old presents his masculinity, and that confuses me

TardWrangler said:

The constant comparing of him to Mahomes is obnoxious. He ran around a lot in an awful defensive conference to try and make highlight reels, holding onto the ball for hours at a time. If he did that in the SEC, it wouldn't work. He plays like kids playing football together, just running around to show-off, not extending plays with a purpose. I don't think he has some elite-level of accuracy like other QBs coming out of college have had. The magical and convenient forgetting of the talking-heads that he's 6'1 while they've done nothing but bash other QBs for being a similar size says a lot. And then there's the personality concerns. The talking-heads can make garbage excuses and hand-wave all they want, it'll be a problem. This "guy" kept painting his nails and talking shit, only to get rolled over. Jumping into the stands to cry in your mom's arms after a regular season loss is pathetic. Telling people, "I just want to go home and hold my dog," is something I'd expect from a teenage girl. 

The coaching in Chiraq isn't elite, so they'll be gone in a year. The OL is, at best, below-average. Their defense couldn't stop a nose bleed. Caleb's going to try and play Hero Ball and it'll get ugly. Then the guys in the locker room will get annoyed in general. Caleb will have some antics and annoy guys further. Chiraq will get a new HC and staff, things will quiet down a bit. Then the Bears will still be bad come November, Caleb will do more stupid shit, and we'll see plenty of reports of guys in the locker room getting tired of Caleb's garbage. 

I've never denied that the kid has talent, but his issues are that he's gonna have a major reality-check playing in the NFL the way he has his whole life, Chiraq's a team allergic to competence, and Caleb's antics, at best, thoroughly annoy every man on the planet. If you wanna be treated like a man, then act like one.

You goofy asf typing all that straight hate 😂

beefybruhh said:

You goofy asf typing all that straight hate 😂

Agreed.  Tell you what, I would take him over Tua for my Dolphins any day of the week.  Not a Tua hater but I just don't ever see him being Elite because he doesn't extend plays like Elite players can.

beefybruhh said:

You goofy asf typing all that straight hate 😂

Just say you're mindless and move on.

whiplash13 said:

Agreed.  Tell you what, I would take him over Tua for my Dolphins any day of the week.  Not a Tua hater but I just don't ever see him being Elite because he doesn't extend plays like Elite players can.

Ah, another ignorant Tua slanderer. 

Just say you never watched him in college, don't really watch any games of him in Miami, and don't understand anything about the position.

TardWrangler said:

I don't think he's going to handle it well.

You may, ignorantly, not care about he carries himself on and off the field, but men do. The teammates of a football player definitely don't want to be around someone constantly acting like a teenage girl, acting worse when things don't go their way. As it turns out, men tend to hate having to be around effeminate guys who constantly want to be told they're a man when their eyes tell them otherwise. And no one's said he isn't a hard worker, or that it's bad that he's family-oriented, that's just you and others parroting the same nonsense trying to hand-wave people with legitimate critiques/concerns. 

Hell, it's not like this is a completely new concept. I'm old enough to remember five minutes ago when Kyler was getting flack internally and externally about acting like a spoiled teenage boy, and it getting so bad that Arizona literally put in his contract that he had to watch film, because they were tired of him playing "Call of Duty" (we haven't had a real CoD in a decade, hence the quotes) all the time.

You don’t know him or how he carries himself as a person you don’t know him at all. You only see a few second clips or whatever your brain wants to see. Your homophobia shines bright bucko. Dodge , duck, dip, dive, and dodge all you want, and no, speak for your fucking self when you say ”men care how other men carry themselves off the feild”. Gtfo. He don’t pay YOUR or my bills. Also, males should be jealous that’s a female trait.

beefybruhh said:

You goofy asf typing all that straight hate 😂

Fr. Pure racism and homophobia at a grand scale. Then hides and tries to justify it.

elmango30 said:

so you have a very narrow definition of what it means to be a man, is what I’m getting from this. No hate, but a dude who cares about winning and losing hugged his mom. A mature adult got assaulted and didn’t retaliate in a way that would harm his career. The only issue I would have is that imo dogs small enough to cuddle are cats, but I’m just a fan of big dogs. you seem to care a lot about how a 20 year old presents his masculinity, and that confuses me

No, I have the correct definition of what a man is. 

• Plenty of men are in sports at every level and very competitive, that doesn't mean they're justified for publicly crying in their mom's arms after a regular season loss. It's pathetic. Part of being a man is keeping-up appearances. Wanna sulk a bit? Ok, do it on your own time in private. 
• What're you talking about Caleb getting assaulted? To my knowledge he never has. And I will never fault someone being assaulted and retaliating in kind, because that's the correct response. 

There's a standard for being a man. If you don't meet that standard, that's fine, you have time to grow into it, every guy has to grow into it. But when guys who're clearly not men start claiming their men, I take issue with that. When people start trying to lie about what a man is to, at best, make guys who haven't earned the title feel better about themselves, I take issue with that. Definitions matter, and changing them for, at best, ignorant reasons, and at worst nefarious ones, is only bad.

TardWrangler said:

Ah, another ignorant Tua slanderer. 

Just say you never watched him in college, don't really watch any games of him in Miami, and don't understand anything about the position.

I’ve been following hs recruiting and football for 30 years since I was a kid. Started my own service but it was bad cuz and had zero recourse and shut down. The fact that you took the time to type that he paints his nails tells me all I need  to know. You’re not a footballer and tbh you’re the one without any real football knowledge here. I bet you can’t even tell me what a 40I is