only losing to 86 ovr teams

mythomaniac said:

If that's the case, we have a big problem in MUT H2H.

Competitive games should not be influenced in any way.

I honestly hope that EA is not fixing these games, that would be a huge blow to the brand and their competitive integrity.

Not really. Who's to say that competitive games aren't running on code with DDA set to 0? 

And its not"fixing". A game that takes into account the skill of the player and balances it accordingly should make it more engaging. Players don't want to lose every game but they probably don't want to win all the time either. You could argue that a game with DDA is actually more fun and, lets face it, the game is easy to balance. A holding call here, a poor pass there - it takes almost nothing. I absolutely see why DDA would be in the game. I honestly don't see why it wouldn't and it is on people that think its not to provide a compelling reason why not.

EightyOne said:

And when someone posts proof of this instead of just, you know, saying it, I'll believe it. Until then....

Has been hundreds of times over the last 5 years, pretty easy to find, yet no one has proof of it in game, color me shocked

RobStillRules1 said:

Has been hundreds of times over the last 5 years, pretty easy to find, yet no one has proof of it in game, color me shocked

Post it then.

EightyOne said:

Post it then.

Could've spent the time googling dda in ea games lulz, but avoid showing any actual proof in h2h. Clearly state they don't use it in h2h in fifa, madden and NHL, to avoid giving an unfair advantage. But the more you win the more likely you are to play better players where it's going to come down to scheme vs scheme. Face reality that the game is a patch fest since forever. Unless they take a year off and start fresh it's going to be a patchwork game based off the previous year for the foreseeable future. It's an animation based rpg game with the addition of abilities. You don't have to like it, but that's what it is. Oh and sick avi, Tim browns one of my all time favorite players

anklebully142 said:

What is DDA

dynamic difficulty adjustment?

RobStillRules1 said:

Could've spent the time googling dda in ea games lulz, but avoid showing any actual proof in h2h. Clearly state they don't use it in h2h in fifa, madden and NHL, to avoid giving an unfair advantage. But the more you win the more likely you are to play better players where it's going to come down to scheme vs scheme. Face reality that the game is a patch fest since forever. Unless they take a year off and start fresh it's going to be a patchwork game based off the previous year for the foreseeable future. It's an animation based rpg game with the addition of abilities. You don't have to like it, but that's what it is. Oh and sick avi, Tim browns one of my all time favorite players

EA are on record saying its not in the game. But that refers to the patent they hold for DDA. If you read the denial, it's quite specific; suspiciously so, some might say. It's not proof of anything.

So go and play a solo battle. Play it on Rookie, Pro, Veteran, All-Star and MVP. Is it easier on Rookie than on MVP or not? If it is, then the game is coded to switch difficulty. It doesn't have to do that using the patent they hold. By that I mean it could be DA - the game sticks you on Rookie and your opponent on MVP for the duration of the game. Think about that for a minute, particularly on D where you control 1 player. Imagine the other 10 being set to Rookie or MVP mode and the difference that'd make.  So there's nothing 'dynamic' about it (because it doesn't change throughout the game) but the result is the same - some games you just know it's going to be uphill all the way, others you've won from that unlikely fumble you forced on kick-off. 

Personally, I don't mind too much - I just wish it was less obvious and, in typical EA fashion, the way it's done is often super lazy: Corners making hero breaks on the ball, fumbles from non User controlled hit sticks, WR's getting tangled up with CPU players and not running their routes. Holding calls at just the right time. I could go on.

And I agree in part with what you've said. Good players can overcome this. Just like people win solo battles set at MVP.

EightyOne said:

This. I play NMS and a TT. Which means I'm always 2 or 3OVR behind a big chunk of MUT players. I'm not a really good player but I do play a fair bit of H2H and am in an online CFM and would consider myself decent. I also know how to play football as I coach two junior teams. I think I have 3 or 4 Superbowl wins and I'll get 4 wins in most of the H2H ladders I play.

I still see DDA regularly. Both for and against me. Funny enough it happens most often going for that 5th win. Which is this games version of a 'top level boss' if you think about it. Strange that.

love your last paragraph, me and my budddy always joke oh how are we gonna get screwed out of our superbowl? and then matchup against a full 95OVR team lololol

Those dude probably grinded hours to get an 86 as opposed to opening packs for the highver overall teams. Likely you just got out played those games, happens to all of us.

EightyOne said:

Not really. Who's to say that competitive games aren't running on code with DDA set to 0? 

And its not"fixing". A game that takes into account the skill of the player and balances it accordingly should make it more engaging. Players don't want to lose every game but they probably don't want to win all the time either. You could argue that a game with DDA is actually more fun and, lets face it, the game is easy to balance. A holding call here, a poor pass there - it takes almost nothing. I absolutely see why DDA would be in the game. I honestly don't see why it wouldn't and it is on people that think its not to provide a compelling reason why not.

Not really what?

I said "If that's the case" and "I honestly hope that EA is not fixing these games".

What are you exactly correcting me on?

Match Fixing involves manipulation of outcome - DDA is manipulation of outcome.

What would be the point of grinding or paying for packs if DDA will penalize the better team?

You can have your opinion, but don't speak for everyone.  If you feel that "DDA is actually more fun" - Good for you.

But the rest of us might feel entirely different and we're also free to have that opinion.

EightyOne said:

This. I play NMS and a TT. Which means I'm always 2 or 3OVR behind a big chunk of MUT players. I'm not a really good player but I do play a fair bit of H2H and am in an online CFM and would consider myself decent. I also know how to play football as I coach two junior teams. I think I have 3 or 4 Superbowl wins and I'll get 4 wins in most of the H2H ladders I play.

I still see DDA regularly. Both for and against me. Funny enough it happens most often going for that 5th win. Which is this games version of a 'top level boss' if you think about it. Strange that.

THIS! Everytime I'm about to make the playoffs on my 5th game.. The persons team/computer players play LIGHTS OUT.. Regardless who it is.. They'll have a terrible d getting instant pressure only rushing 3 or 4, cornerbacks locking my receivers down using a cover 4. Computer players actually guarding the seams in a cover 3 which typically NEVER happens. Then, I lose.. And the game goes right back to normal 😂 I can't stand playing lesser teams sometimes. It feels like their team is playing like mine should be, and mine is playing like theirs should be. I actually sold my team once to build a Vikings theme team which the overall was terribly rated to see for myself.. I played 1 season and made it to the Superbowl and was blowing people out making them quit.. I ended up losing my Superbowl and boosting my team back up again.. Haven't made it to the Superbowl since 😂

ngl its some demons out here that are truly nms but you can usually tell whos a demon and whos gettin glazed by "A higher power". Especially the futher we are through the madden year. Like if u see a dude rocking a kitted will levis and he has kyle pitts hyatt and wilson at wr, spamming motion y post and flipping his offense your probably just gonna get cooked im sorry, but if dude has 86 joe montana ladanian tomlinson and berrios at wr1 cooking your 93 speed sauce cb on pressed streaks ur getting DDA'd no question about it. Dudes running stick every 1st down cause thats what coach suggest like cmon. 

That said you can lose to a lower overall with the schemes and the cheese for sure. but if yougo up 14-0 and then suddenly s1 maxx crosby is insta shedding abraham lucas while your 93 dt's take 6 sec to shed a 1on 1 run block of an 86 joe alt you might as well bend over and close your eyes cause boy does EA have a surprise for you. You ever been in a close game (you were up but the other team comes back to tie it up, onside kick time and you cant pick a play at all, he kicks the ball and recovers it and ur just like "no way im going to lose like this") yea man its not what you know thats the truth, its what you can prove. killers walk  free and innocent people are jailed all the time . 3 sides to every story The dda side, the get good side, and EA's side. As long as there is enough speculation from the other sides the truth  can be whatever ea wants it to be without anyone ever really knowing. Areas 51 effect

wvtchclosely said:

ngl its some demons out here that are truly nms but you can usually tell whos a demon and whos gettin glazed by "A higher power". Especially the futher we are through the madden year. Like if u see a dude rocking a kitted will levis and he has kyle pitts hyatt and wilson at wr, spamming motion y post and flipping his offense your probably just gonna get cooked im sorry, but if dude has 86 joe montana ladanian tomlinson and berrios at wr1 cooking your 93 speed sauce cb on pressed streaks ur getting DDA'd no question about it. Dudes running stick every 1st down cause thats what coach suggest like cmon. 

That said you can lose to a lower overall with the schemes and the cheese for sure. but if yougo up 14-0 and then suddenly s1 maxx crosby is insta shedding abraham lucas while your 93 dt's take 6 sec to shed a 1on 1 run block of an 86 joe alt you might as well bend over and close your eyes cause boy does EA have a surprise for you. You ever been in a close game (you were up but the other team comes back to tie it up, onside kick time and you cant pick a play at all, he kicks the ball and recovers it and ur just like "no way im going to lose like this") yea man its not what you know thats the truth, its what you can prove. killers walk  free and innocent people are jailed all the time . 3 sides to every story The dda side, the get good side, and EA's side. As long as there is enough speculation from the other sides the truth  can be whatever ea wants it to be without anyone ever really knowing. Areas 51 effect

Love the post - very entertaining 🤣

Are you pausing and looking at their whole coaching lineup to be sure that they actually have an 86 overall team? 

Or are you judging that from the three cards that they show at the beginning? 

Because I definitely see people use power-ups on their backups in order to be sneaky and kind of hide the fact that they're actually boasting high '90s on all of their starters because the three cards at the beginning are just the top three cards that have power-ups.

DjNysus said:

Are you pausing and looking at their whole coaching lineup to be sure that they actually have an 86 overall team? 

Or are you judging that from the three cards that they show at the beginning? 

Because I definitely see people use power-ups on their backups in order to be sneaky and kind of hide the fact that they're actually boasting high '90s on all of their starters because the three cards at the beginning are just the top three cards that have power-ups.

honestly if you play this game like i do you pretty much know every card based on how they look and what position their at because 9/10 you have used them before, and 10 out of 10 they havbe never acted like that when you used them or u would be still using them. especially the cloeups after a tackle you just are like "I know that aint who i think it is thats been cooking me all game" lmao