Since the new patch

I can't do anything on defense. I think it's obvious what EA did. They made this game more attractive to the younger casual generation that knows nothing but funny celebrations and tik tok.  I'm putting players in position and the ball is literally going through them, it's amazing. Guys throwing into triple coverage, no interception. Guys with low man coverage locking down my Calvin Johnson, nobody playing their zones, wide open lanes to run and somehow the dt makes the play just as i'm running past him. The game was fun but this last week or so, it's getting really bad. 

They are eliminating any skill gap and making the game playable for everyone which is fine but it really messes it up for the hardcore football fans who actually try to play football. Instead, you have outmanipulate your opponent to try to stop them from manipulating your players. It's really sick and hopefully EA loses the license so we can be done with their horrendous game once and for all.

It really comes down to who makes the first mistake or who manages the clock better wins. Which is a bummer, I'm not against having a very offensive madden. I think it is more fun but throwing into double coverage needs to trigger INTs every time. That's the one that bugs me a lot, terrible throws should be punished at the highest possible level.

TheNickSix said:

It really comes down to who makes the first mistake or who manages the clock better wins. Which is a bummer, I'm not against having a very offensive madden. I think it is more fun but throwing into double coverage needs to trigger INTs every time. That's the one that bugs me a lot, terrible throws should be punished at the highest possible level.

This is the thing that's killing me. I'm literally on top of my fucking opponent and they get saved. Triple coverage? I can't cover much better than that dude. Give me the pick and punish people for mistakes instead of rewarding them.

SportsPerson94 said:

This is the thing that's killing me. I'm literally on top of my fucking opponent and they get saved. Triple coverage? I can't cover much better than that dude. Give me the pick and punish people for mistakes instead of rewarding them.

Honestly, if they are a big runner I run pinch buck 0 and change the coverages behind it, if they are a big passer I run cover 4 match and pray. Match got fixed during the patch and at times is actually really good.

TheNickSix said:

Honestly, if they are a big runner I run pinch buck 0 and change the coverages behind it, if they are a big passer I run cover 4 match and pray. Match got fixed during the patch and at times is actually really good.

Nothing i do is working. I'm literally doing every single possible defensive adjustment and nothing is working at all. I'm usually a defensive minded player and focus on defense first but this game is just awful with defense. They don't want people stopping the other person, they want every game to be a shootout. It's very disappointing

TheNickSix said:

It really comes down to who makes the first mistake or who manages the clock better wins. Which is a bummer, I'm not against having a very offensive madden. I think it is more fun but throwing into double coverage needs to trigger INTs every time. That's the one that bugs me a lot, terrible throws should be punished at the highest possible level.

There's some truth to this but not always.. Ive had a bunch of 20-17, 24-21 type games, but I really try to manage the clock and run the ball frequently. I'm probably 75% run. It's honestly amazing that you can stay in dime, dollar, whatever against people on defense and they'll never run the ball lol.. If I see somebody that only runs those defenses, I WILL not throw the ball till they stop the run lol. And a lot of times they won't till they change the defense. 

People are just impatient. They want to score every 4 plays instead of take care of the ball and move the chains. That's how I beat people. Those guys will make a mistake or two that will cost them the game.

WendyPefferkorn said:

There's some truth to this but not always.. Ive had a bunch of 20-17, 24-21 type games, but I really try to manage the clock and run the ball frequently. I'm probably 75% run. It's honestly amazing that you can stay in dime, dollar, whatever against people on defense and they'll never run the ball lol.. If I see somebody that only runs those defenses, I WILL not throw the ball till they stop the run lol. And a lot of times they won't till they change the defense. 

People are just impatient. They want to score every 4 plays instead of take care of the ball and move the chains. That's how I beat people. Those guys will make a mistake or two that will cost them the game.

I play a slow game, always did. I run the ball, short passes, manage the clock. I just can't get stops on defense, that's my biggest issue all year so far. No matter what i do, i can't stop shit. Sometimes i'll have the rare game where my defense plays insane but most of the time it's my defense sitting there watching shit happen and i can't user everything

SportsPerson94 said:

I play a slow game, always did. I run the ball, short passes, manage the clock. I just can't get stops on defense, that's my biggest issue all year so far. No matter what i do, i can't stop shit. Sometimes i'll have the rare game where my defense plays insane but most of the time it's my defense sitting there watching shit happen and i can't user everything

I understand. Against most people, I stay in the Dollar or the other one that has 3 DL, 1 LB and 7 DBs lol. I run cover 3 spy and cover 4 and audible to spy the QB with the backer with the 2nd defense. In the dollar, I'll run cover 4 and spy with one of the backers. I usually user one of the safeties that is away from the strength. If it's a lot of underneath routes, I'll user the safety and read the routes to make sure the deep ball is covered. A lot of deep routes, ill user one of the hook players and stay underneath the guys hes trying to go to. I'll never understand the people that refuse to run the ball when I have 1 LB in the vicinity of the box. Lol

Those 2 win me a lot of games simply because people are predictable and run the same routes over and over again, refuse to run the ball, and have no gamesmanship lol. Meaning, I'll run it down peoples throats, but when they finally stop me, I'll have to get creative and 'hot route' a WR on a run play, switch the side of the run, etc. That screws them up and the run will start working again lol.

Agreed. I’ve always won games with defense. Since season two started, scores are way higher, and my win pct is down.

Part of it is that they haven’t released anything to counteract Pitts and Metcalf. I’m hoping most feared will be defense heavy, and it’ll reintroduce some balance that way.

The other part is def by design. I played a game the other night the guy mossed me on 4th down 4 separate times. Twice in double coverage, too. like wtf. Also had a super weird thing happen where Derwin James was on Moss running corner route, James was in perfect position, thought he was going to swat, then suddenly he just stops?? Moss catches and proceeds to score. Straight up glitch. Rage quit right then and there lol in a tie game.

WendyPefferkorn said:

I understand. Against most people, I stay in the Dollar or the other one that has 3 DL, 1 LB and 7 DBs lol. I run cover 3 spy and cover 4 and audible to spy the QB with the backer with the 2nd defense. In the dollar, I'll run cover 4 and spy with one of the backers. I usually user one of the safeties that is away from the strength. If it's a lot of underneath routes, I'll user the safety and read the routes to make sure the deep ball is covered. A lot of deep routes, ill user one of the hook players and stay underneath the guys hes trying to go to. I'll never understand the people that refuse to run the ball when I have 1 LB in the vicinity of the box. Lol

Those 2 win me a lot of games simply because people are predictable and run the same routes over and over again, refuse to run the ball, and have no gamesmanship lol. Meaning, I'll run it down peoples throats, but when they finally stop me, I'll have to get creative and 'hot route' a WR on a run play, switch the side of the run, etc. That screws them up and the run will start working again lol.

I hear you man. I run my offense the same way. Actually benched 89 Henry and i'm using the 86 Foster and that card is actually very good. Didn't realize how slow and clunky Henry was until i used someone else lol. Foster being able to hit the edges and get yards is huge. 
 

i'll just keep mixing up coverages and pray it works. I rebuilt my defense to be able to play match better but so far, no luck.

Foobarbaz said:

Agreed. I’ve always won games with defense. Since season two started, scores are way higher, and my win pct is down.

Part of it is that they haven’t released anything to counteract Pitts and Metcalf. I’m hoping most feared will be defense heavy, and it’ll reintroduce some balance that way.

The other part is def by design. I played a game the other night the guy mossed me on 4th down 4 separate times. Twice in double coverage, too. like wtf. Also had a super weird thing happen where Derwin James was on Moss running corner route, James was in perfect position, thought he was going to swat, then suddenly he just stops?? Moss catches and proceeds to score. Straight up glitch. Rage quit right then and there lol in a tie game.

Yep. i've had people throw into triple coverage time after time after time and get saved. Then they finally throw into single coverage and i get torched. The defense is a disaster and i really enjoy a tight 14-10 or 17-14 game. Shootouts are fun for stats but it's basically an arcade game. It feels like NFL Street or the other one, nfl blitz i think it was called. 

And when i see Pitts or Metcalf, i get a fucking stomach ache lmao. I had a guy activate unstoppable route tech on his Metcalf earlier today and i got killed by it. I had 3 guys on him all with high man coverage and he was wide open by 5+ yards every time. Just ridiculous this is the shit we have to worry about

SportsPerson94 said:

I hear you man. I run my offense the same way. Actually benched 89 Henry and i'm using the 86 Foster and that card is actually very good. Didn't realize how slow and clunky Henry was until i used someone else lol. Foster being able to hit the edges and get yards is huge. 
 

i'll just keep mixing up coverages and pray it works. I rebuilt my defense to be able to play match better but so far, no luck.

I've read where people swear by the match coverages but I guess I'm a newb. Where are they on the old gen? 

I have Bo, Henry and Edmonds. Bo is excellent for what I do. Power and RPOs. Henry is just shortyardage. Can't move. Edmonds for being only 85 overall has done great for me as a 3DRB.

WendyPefferkorn said:

There's some truth to this but not always.. Ive had a bunch of 20-17, 24-21 type games, but I really try to manage the clock and run the ball frequently. I'm probably 75% run. It's honestly amazing that you can stay in dime, dollar, whatever against people on defense and they'll never run the ball lol.. If I see somebody that only runs those defenses, I WILL not throw the ball till they stop the run lol. And a lot of times they won't till they change the defense. 

People are just impatient. They want to score every 4 plays instead of take care of the ball and move the chains. That's how I beat people. Those guys will make a mistake or two that will cost them the game.

I think both things can be true, I lost a game 17-21 last night. Where like you described he sat in dollar all game, so I ran the ball almost every play until my final drive I needed a TD to score, he only had the ball 3 times and scored each time. I threw a pick on my last drive and that was the first mistake either of us made all game so he wins.

SportsPerson94 said:

I can't do anything on defense. I think it's obvious what EA did. They made this game more attractive to the younger casual generation that knows nothing but funny celebrations and tik tok.  I'm putting players in position and the ball is literally going through them, it's amazing. Guys throwing into triple coverage, no interception. Guys with low man coverage locking down my Calvin Johnson, nobody playing their zones, wide open lanes to run and somehow the dt makes the play just as i'm running past him. The game was fun but this last week or so, it's getting really bad. 

They are eliminating any skill gap and making the game playable for everyone which is fine but it really messes it up for the hardcore football fans who actually try to play football. Instead, you have outmanipulate your opponent to try to stop them from manipulating your players. It's really sick and hopefully EA loses the license so we can be done with their horrendous game once and for all.

They made this game more attractive to the younger casual generation that knows nothing but funny celebrations and tik tok.

Chill out. You want to leave respectful criticisms about the game, that's fine. But don't start making broad sweeping indictments of generations of people. That is not OK.