So is the Vanguard built in ability on Mawae the new trend for UL OLineman?

ThirdRhombus978 said:

Only works for Te’s WRs and fbs

Reinforcement xfactor or built in on 3-5 DBs or linebackers would work?

Karmageddon said:

Reinforcement xfactor or built in on 3-5 DBs or linebackers would work?

Yes, but the guy I responded to talked about out of my way, which is an ability that only works on those players, not o-line blocks

ThirdRhombus978 said:

All the cards that get the built in vanguard are expensive though, and you can counter the X factors with Hutchinson

only the rich rich players would be able to get all the FBs, O-line, Te’s

This is correct. But those "rich rich players" play the game all the time, so not only are their teams overpowered, but they know the game pretty well, and know how to work around the workarounds. Because they play often, they may be limited in number, but they're persistently found in matchups. And they're driving the casuals away, so this will get worse over time.

By the way, I'm getting used to working around Hutchinson. You can sub guys out of your lineup so as not to lose the momentum, and if they pull him off the field for a sort of cat-and-mouse, you can catch him off the field and No Huddle your guys' X-factors active.

But really, X-factors are becoming a luxury, not a necessity. There are only a handful that are critical.

Peeps w unstoppable blitz' complaining about vanguard simultaneously the vanguard guys complain about the unstoppable blitzers 😆

Supremeconservative8 said:

Peeps w unstoppable blitz' complaining about vanguard simultaneously the vanguard guys complain about the unstoppable blitzers 😆

There's absolutely no excuse that can be made for abusing the AI. If people are going to bring MIRV's to a knife fight, that's a totally different thing, because everyone's doing it these days.

Dudes that shoot the gap repeatedly without even being sensed by the linemen? Bush league.

Karmageddon said:

Guys it's fine. A bunch of players on D get "out my way" for free now. Make sure they're in run fits and you're blessed.

Doesnt "out of way" only work on TEs, but not OLine?

ThirdRhombus978 said:

All the cards that get the built in vanguard are expensive though, and you can counter the X factors with Hutchinson

only the rich rich players would be able to get all the FBs, O-line, Te’s

H2H and Champ mode is a lot of "rich" players

I run into Franco Harris every other game

Supremeconservative8 said:

Peeps w unstoppable blitz' complaining about vanguard simultaneously the vanguard guys complain about the unstoppable blitzers 😆

Unstoppable Blitz are countered by Secure protectors

Nothing counters Vanguard on OLine