This lineup restricted thing is so stupid, everybody is cheating and subbing on players

SportsPerson94 said:

I usually win around 17-18 games in mut champs. And i know not every single play is cheese but most of the time, it's one person trying to exploit the other one. How else do you explain a 3 man front with DBs behind it stopping the the run consistently? Or zones not doing shit? Football is a tough game to play, it's tough to get yards. This year, anybody can get into a game and score 50. I drop 30-40 on guys with top DBs, it's bullshit. Same shit happens against me. Defense sucks all around unless you're breaking the game.

I can agree with this though I believe I'm more novice than you. Defense seems to me "pick your poison" because you basically can't do this whole "well I should cover underneath, but they might burn me over the top so I'll do this one thing to deal with that" crap. It seems like it really has to be all or nothing. And what's the one thing that can logically stop what counters it? Blitzing, of course. Screens get blown up because they didn't have time to develop (they suck anyway but still). Fast passing across the middle gets blown up or the QB ends up inaccurate due to pressure etc etc. These are just my takes, but that's why I think it's blitz or be blitzed for the most part, though I don't like to blitz every play (I actually don't even want to personally). And why Henry was successful - he found exactly the scheme that could cover what he could not (the outside) while being an insane user across the middle and having a difficult to stop, OP screaming blitz.

antitwisted said:

I can agree with this though I believe I'm more novice than you. Defense seems to me "pick your poison" because you basically can't do this whole "well I should cover underneath, but they might burn me over the top so I'll do this one thing to deal with that" crap. It seems like it really has to be all or nothing. And what's the one thing that can logically stop what counters it? Blitzing, of course. Screens get blown up because they didn't have time to develop (they suck anyway but still). Fast passing across the middle gets blown up or the QB ends up inaccurate due to pressure etc etc. These are just my takes, but that's why I think it's blitz or be blitzed for the most part, though I don't like to blitz every play (I actually don't even want to personally). And why Henry was successful - he found exactly the scheme that could cover what he could not (the outside) while being an insane user across the middle and having a difficult to stop, OP screaming blitz.

That's true. Only problem is when i blitz, i get burned lol. I guess you're right though. Maybe blitzing more is the way to go. Or mix more blitzes in and just deal with the consequences and use some zone blitzes.

SportsPerson94 said:

I usually win around 17-18 games in mut champs. And i know not every single play is cheese but most of the time, it's one person trying to exploit the other one. How else do you explain a 3 man front with DBs behind it stopping the the run consistently? Or zones not doing shit? Football is a tough game to play, it's tough to get yards. This year, anybody can get into a game and score 50. I drop 30-40 on guys with top DBs, it's bullshit. Same shit happens against me. Defense sucks all around unless you're breaking the game.

I agree about defense. Zones need to actually play and they shouldn’t be so rigid

bbrewer23goblue said:

lol mut champs and mcs is 100% about breaking the game.....i havent watched that trash in yrs lol give me my drops that is all......how many of these so called pros ever played a single snap of football irl?

It’s a video game…people who play COD professionally didn’t serve in world war 2 lmao

elmango30 said:

I agree about defense. Zones need to actually play and they shouldn’t be so rigid

Short and to the point. A good point. The rigid zones are indeed terrible. They have nothing happening around them and then they just...stand there. That's not how real life works.

elmango30 said:

It’s a video game…people who play COD professionally didn’t serve in world war 2 lmao

hahaha thank you. This is an amazing analogy. So many people say shit like this. I mean its video game based on football, not actual football. Learning how the game works will make you a much better player than studying modern NFL schemes lol

itscush2push said:

Agree to disagree. 

It's not competitive if all you do is run scripted plays to counter cheese. That is just animation roulette till someone "wins" 

The Comp players are just more consistent at cheesing.   They all run the same cowardly concepts to attack the CPU and not the User.

Agreed! Comp equals just who can abuse the game's coding and AI the most.

elmango30 said:

It’s still competitive because the comp players aren’t spamming the same things over and over again. It’s offensive and defensive plays that counter each other. If my opponent can’t stop something I’m not a coward to do it. I’m just better at madden than they are

You, indeed, are a coward if ou're repeatedly running the same broken cheesy plays. Players like you are what's wrong with Madden.

SportsPerson94 said:

No offense but if your offense is cheesing the cpu and exploting the game, you're actually not better than your opponent at Madden. Sometimes you have to do 50 different things to stop a cheese play and it becomes pointless. If you need to run the same cheese play over and over again, you're actually a horrendous madden player. Cooldown mode shows you how bad people really are at this game. When they can't spam the same play over and over again, they literally can't play. 
 

the way Madden is built, i wouldn't pound my chest about being "good" at the game when the game actually rewards bad players more than it does good ones.

Preach!!!

Jc23 said:

You, indeed, are a coward if ou're repeatedly running the same broken cheesy plays. Players like you are what's wrong with Madden.

I’d rather be a coward than just not smart enough to stop the same play. Lmao. ill let players like you win so I don’t have to be a coward 🥺🥺

ps - nothing, literally nothing about the strategy one uses in a video game says something about them as a person. If you get self worth because you lose but you came out in a different formation every play, get therapy. If you get self worth because you won and came out in the same play every play, get therapy

elmango30 said:

I’d rather be a coward than just not smart enough to stop the same play. Lmao. ill let players like you win so I don’t have to be a coward 🥺🥺

ps - nothing, literally nothing about the strategy one uses in a video game says something about them as a person. If you get self worth because you lose but you came out in a different formation every play, get therapy. If you get self worth because you won and came out in the same play every play, get therapy

I completely disagree. What one does somewhat anonymously over the internet is a great read on them as a person and their integrity. Same holds true for gaming.

How do you sub your players?