Vanguard or Honorary Lineman?

Thinking of getting Cruz

Marvin Harrison Jr plays great...but even with honorary lineman, I noticed hes horrible on outside run blocks

Therefore thinking about getting Cruz, as he gets Evasive and Route Tech

The Deep Elite, Mid Elite, etc...they dont really matter as you get KOed all the time anyway unless you dive to the ground

Also, this confirms likely Brandon Marshall will not be in the game, as he would have been the perfect WR as the 1st to receive vanguard

Vanguard is definitely better on any player that can get it

jimshredder said:

Thinking of getting Cruz

Marvin Harrison Jr plays great...but even with honorary lineman, I noticed hes horrible on outside run blocks

Therefore thinking about getting Cruz, as he gets Evasive and Route Tech

The Deep Elite, Mid Elite, etc...they dont really matter as you get KOed all the time anyway unless you dive to the ground

100% Vanguard, it's really fantastic.  Ridiculously overpowered.  Despite the intense cheese-factor, it makes sense to have as many of these on the field as is reasonable, at least in certain formations.  Charge-Up X-factors on offense barely matter anymore, but i've been running Evan Engram at WR and once in a blue moon there will be a game where his Vanguard is lit up and it's so stupid how he'll just clear a path down the side of the field, often pancaking 2-3 defenders in a single play.

Also, while we're on the topic, if you can justify Kevin Mawae for Center, he's also fantastic with 1AP Vanguard.  Or that new Will (C) Golden Ticket, word on the street is that he Clapps.  I didn't realize just how often until adding big Kevin, but holy the Center manages to get to the second level SOOO often.

peatrick said:

100% Vanguard, it's really fantastic.  Ridiculously overpowered.  Despite the intense cheese-factor, it makes sense to have as many of these on the field as is reasonable, at least in certain formations.  Charge-Up X-factors on offense barely matter anymore, but i've been running Evan Engram at WR and once in a blue moon there will be a game where his Vanguard is lit up and it's so stupid how he'll just clear a path down the side of the field, often pancaking 2-3 defenders in a single play.

Also, while we're on the topic, if you can justify Kevin Mawae for Center, he's also fantastic with 1AP Vanguard.  Or that new Will (C) Golden Ticket, word on the street is that he Clapps.  I didn't realize just how often until adding big Kevin, but holy the Center manages to get to the second level SOOO often.

You can put Mawae at LG and Clap at C

jimshredder said:

You can put Mawae at LG and Clap at C

I recently adjusted my squad to take advantage of 25/50 Bitch Pigeons, because i needed to boost Shaun Alexander to max 99 SPD.  There's probably a better way to achieve that, but i didn't wanna give up my beloved 49ers TTAS boosts... so i'm actually using big Kevin's Seahawks chems and had to give up my backup Center, reducing my boosts.

I tend to be a bit hyper-obsessive / OCD about trying to min/max my players, often to my own detriment.  Especially knowing stats barely matter, but it's pleasing to my broken brain when numba go up.  I'm such a simpleton.

jimshredder said:

You can put Mawae at LG and Clap at C

Alright, you convinced me. Will Clapp is going to play RG, guess I'll keep Lincoln Kennedy at LG. Don't need Will Shields now, heh.

I guess that's my third Vanguard player for 1AP. Trent (FB), Kevin & now Will.

Curious how often he'll get to use that 95 SPD (slightly boosted) along with 99 ACC getting to second level.

peatrick said:

Alright, you convinced me. Will Clapp is going to play RG, guess I'll keep Lincoln Kennedy at LG. Don't need Will Shields now, heh.

I guess that's my third Vanguard player for 1AP. Trent (FB), Kevin & now Will.

Curious how often he'll get to use that 95 SPD (slightly boosted) along with 99 ACC getting to second level.

I had Russ Grim...just sold him, hes up to like 1.7 milly on xbox

So I get a better card in Will Clap and save some coin

My OLINE is now Joe Thomas, Will Clap, Kevin Mawae, Will Shields, Lincoln Kennedy

jimshredder said:

You can put Mawae at LG and Clap at C

👀👀👀 gonna add another VG.. thanks for the thought!

Vanguard it literally kills the other defender

Vanguard. I'm running Cruz, Kelce, Mawae, Clapp, Trent and crumpler. Had to sacrifice angry runs on Perry but it's worth it I think since if I play someone he can light up against it's rarely competitive anyways

Vanguard is better for sure

Vanguard is the better ability no matter who it is on

Don't listen to people who say on a WR vanguard is no different than honorary lineman. While the description says they will do the same thing since a WR will mainly be blocking DBs this is false. Honorary lineman will grant longer blocks but not always a pancake. Vanguard is basically a guaranteed pancake block no matter what which is why it is superior in every way to HL

Vanguard is so good. Everybody tells me to stop cheesing, but there’re the ones with every single freaking KO in the game