We gotta do something

MaddenIsTerrible said:

Stop spending money on packs? There is no "we", not everyone spends thousands on this game. It's a simple thing, have some self control and stop spending.

I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that your eyeballs and ATTENTION are also a valuable currency.  Perhaps THE most valuable currency in the entire world.  This is why things can never improve, because the Madden community will remain divided, arguing with one another over which part of the player base is to blame.  This is no different than the nonsensical political machine.  We're all busy fighting (red versus blue, left versus right) or whatever, meanwhile, EA is laughing all the way to the bank.

Every hour you spend in front of this game, EA is harvesting and analyzing (and probably reselling) your user data.  Please stop pointing the finger at pay pigs.  Yes, the game is designed and geared for the small (1%) of whales, content creators, streamers, degenerate gambling addicts, etc. but every single one of us dropped at least a $50-100 to get into Madden 25.  EA has figured out how to game every step of the way.  They're also grifting their advertisers, such as Chunky or Lexus or whoever was dumb enough to believe the engagement numbers that EA's marketing team surely has put together.  The company is literally paying us (through "free" MCS cards) to idle in their Twitch streams, because that's how they can demand more money (for the eyeballs/attention) from said advertisers.

Yes, EA is a problem.  Yes, pay to win game mechanics are absolute bullshit and have absolutely no place in an online, H2H competitive game.  Sell us classic uniform packs, cosmetics, whatever... until we can all agree on these simple basic facts, there's no hope of anything improving.  Hell, if you can get even ten people in a forum thread to agree on the actual problems, I'd be surprised.  We can't even get a certain subset of people to believe that the world is round.  Good luck with anything slightly more complex or nuanced.  Oof.

PLEASE stop pretending you're not part of the Madden community that continues to support this bad game and this awful company.  We're all part of the problem, every single one of us... but ultimately it's not our fault.  EA is to blame, simple as that.  NOT the player base, we're simply responding to the buggy ass, inconsistent mess / madness that is M25.

joemainey said:

Already told myself that this will be the last Madden that I play. I spent a lot of money last year just to end up with the same team as everyone else. Learned my lesson the hard way. Not to mention how toxic the player base is. Lost count of how many times I've been told to k*ll myself after a mut champs game. There's a certain percentage of players out there that are struggling with depression and use Madden as an escape goat. That's probably the last thing they want to hear. But let me digress.

This is so true.

Odog123 said:

I’m not seeing much of a reason to log on right now let alone spend $$.

 

If I’m signing up for a pack strike though there has to be more of plan to it. A strike isn’t a solution. It’s one of the final escalations to force the process of finding a solution to begin.

 

So what can we do? Throw out ideas

 

-Here’s one to add on top of a pack strike. Game time strike. Agree to periods none of us will log on.

 

-we could do similar agreements amongst ourselves with EA produced content on other platforms and social media

I think a simple and effective start would be to unify a message to spam on all stream chats. Get as many of us as possible in every stream on each platform and spam the message boards. The player base needs EA to engage. We need a message to get across imo.

TexansAreHim said:

Since M21 when I first started Ive spent a total of less than $100 on the game. Ive been strictly nms since the end of m23 and EA is making me remain that way. Like you are saying I am very pissed. The fact that they don't include a harvest promo is just pure laziness. So many classic memories from previous maddens where the company was trying. I don't know where the other content creators went but yeah WE as a whole need to overthrow EA.

We should definitely overthrow Electronic Arts.  How much money do you have?  Their (intraday) market cap is currently hovering around $42.897B at least according to Yahoo finance.  I'll chip in twenty bucks if yer starting a fund to begin the process of a hostile takeover.  Are we trying to just spin off EA Orlando / Tiburon only, or the entire parent company and all?  I don't really want to get involved with Apex Legends or any of the other terrible products they drop, i'm far too busy choking in various H2H Ranked games slowly climbing my way up the ladder to run multiple companies.  I suspect an ~hour a day is more actual effort than Clint puts forth, so in that case -- sign me up, I think we're all just as qualified to run an AAA video game studio as the current guy.  Granted, I've never been cut from an NFL practice squad, so if that's a requirement I might not be qualified... but whatever elite blocking knowledge that was supposed to become part of the game, clearly has not happened.  So, yeah... we're all equally qualified.

peatrick said:

We should definitely overthrow Electronic Arts.  How much money do you have?  Their (intraday) market cap is currently hovering around $42.897B at least according to Yahoo finance.  I'll chip in twenty bucks if yer starting a fund to begin the process of a hostile takeover.  Are we trying to just spin off EA Orlando / Tiburon only, or the entire parent company and all?  I don't really want to get involved with Apex Legends or any of the other terrible products they drop, i'm far too busy choking in various H2H Ranked games slowly climbing my way up the ladder to run multiple companies.  I suspect an ~hour a day is more actual effort than Clint puts forth, so in that case -- sign me up, I think we're all just as qualified to run an AAA video game studio as the current guy.  Granted, I've never been cut from an NFL practice squad, so if that's a requirement I might not be qualified... but whatever elite blocking knowledge that was supposed to become part of the game, clearly has not happened.  So, yeah... we're all equally qualified.

Lol. Guess it would be impossible to overthrow EA.

peatrick said:

I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that your eyeballs and ATTENTION are also a valuable currency.  Perhaps THE most valuable currency in the entire world.  This is why things can never improve, because the Madden community will remain divided, arguing with one another over which part of the player base is to blame.  This is no different than the nonsensical political machine.  We're all busy fighting (red versus blue, left versus right) or whatever, meanwhile, EA is laughing all the way to the bank.

Every hour you spend in front of this game, EA is harvesting and analyzing (and probably reselling) your user data.  Please stop pointing the finger at pay pigs.  Yes, the game is designed and geared for the small (1%) of whales, content creators, streamers, degenerate gambling addicts, etc. but every single one of us dropped at least a $50-100 to get into Madden 25.  EA has figured out how to game every step of the way.  They're also grifting their advertisers, such as Chunky or Lexus or whoever was dumb enough to believe the engagement numbers that EA's marketing team surely has put together.  The company is literally paying us (through "free" MCS cards) to idle in their Twitch streams, because that's how they can demand more money (for the eyeballs/attention) from said advertisers.

Yes, EA is a problem.  Yes, pay to win game mechanics are absolute bullshit and have absolutely no place in an online, H2H competitive game.  Sell us classic uniform packs, cosmetics, whatever... until we can all agree on these simple basic facts, there's no hope of anything improving.  Hell, if you can get even ten people in a forum thread to agree on the actual problems, I'd be surprised.  We can't even get a certain subset of people to believe that the world is round.  Good luck with anything slightly more complex or nuanced.  Oof.

PLEASE stop pretending you're not part of the Madden community that continues to support this bad game and this awful company.  We're all part of the problem, every single one of us... but ultimately it's not our fault.  EA is to blame, simple as that.  NOT the player base, we're simply responding to the buggy ass, inconsistent mess / madness that is M25.

People are too busy making fun of other people for legit complaints and they get away with it

JDrum99 said:

I think a simple and effective start would be to unify a message to spam on all stream chats. Get as many of us as possible in every stream on each platform and spam the message boards. The player base needs EA to engage. We need a message to get across imo.

Yes, step one would be organization. A place, a group, a tag. An organization of MUT users in way that has some structure. This is important for a lot reasons but it provides accountability through community and resources for the members in a such a way. It also provides active and accurate communication. While giving EA a place they could actually reach out to. These might be difficult as people would probably be asked to voluntarily surrender some level of anonymity.

If that were to be accomplished then we could put together a list of demands and take it to EA.

-another way to strike is mass uninstalls. Even for short periods of time could send a message.

I don’t know about overthrow. I’m talking about trying to work with them but maybe some of you are right and it’s a waste of time to even consider.

TecmoEagles said:

"MMG already is taking a break who knows when he’ll be back, scomo, zirksee, and itsdom"

I was always skeptical last year when you said you where in Junior High School, but I guess by your viewing habits you where telling the truth.

?

peatrick said:

I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that your eyeballs and ATTENTION are also a valuable currency.  Perhaps THE most valuable currency in the entire world.  This is why things can never improve, because the Madden community will remain divided, arguing with one another over which part of the player base is to blame.  This is no different than the nonsensical political machine.  We're all busy fighting (red versus blue, left versus right) or whatever, meanwhile, EA is laughing all the way to the bank.

Every hour you spend in front of this game, EA is harvesting and analyzing (and probably reselling) your user data.  Please stop pointing the finger at pay pigs.  Yes, the game is designed and geared for the small (1%) of whales, content creators, streamers, degenerate gambling addicts, etc. but every single one of us dropped at least a $50-100 to get into Madden 25.  EA has figured out how to game every step of the way.  They're also grifting their advertisers, such as Chunky or Lexus or whoever was dumb enough to believe the engagement numbers that EA's marketing team surely has put together.  The company is literally paying us (through "free" MCS cards) to idle in their Twitch streams, because that's how they can demand more money (for the eyeballs/attention) from said advertisers.

Yes, EA is a problem.  Yes, pay to win game mechanics are absolute bullshit and have absolutely no place in an online, H2H competitive game.  Sell us classic uniform packs, cosmetics, whatever... until we can all agree on these simple basic facts, there's no hope of anything improving.  Hell, if you can get even ten people in a forum thread to agree on the actual problems, I'd be surprised.  We can't even get a certain subset of people to believe that the world is round.  Good luck with anything slightly more complex or nuanced.  Oof.

PLEASE stop pretending you're not part of the Madden community that continues to support this bad game and this awful company.  We're all part of the problem, every single one of us... but ultimately it's not our fault.  EA is to blame, simple as that.  NOT the player base, we're simply responding to the buggy ass, inconsistent mess / madness that is M25.

I seem to have some agreement with the people who want to take a strike on EA. If we can stop everyone who is touching the game to stop then we can make something happen. I also agree with the above quote. Ea makes a lot of money off of twitch and other platforms. If we can cut off ALL PROFITS ea gets, they have to listen to us.

Carterlewis said:

I seem to have some agreement with the people who want to take a strike on EA. If we can stop everyone who is touching the game to stop then we can make something happen. I also agree with the above quote. Ea makes a lot of money off of twitch and other platforms. If we can cut off ALL PROFITS ea gets, they have to listen to us.

It's possible, but requires immense organization from the community. 

A recent example I'd provide would be the fan outrage and backlash from the Japanese community for the low effort, race baiting manner in which they butchered feudal Japan.

https://www.cbr.com/ubisoft-assassins-creed-shadows-outrage-bait/

Did they get rid of harvest because I haven’t seeing anything about it

JmanMcc11 said:

Did they get rid of harvest because I haven’t seeing anything about it

yep :(

Odog123 said:

I’m not seeing much of a reason to log on right now let alone spend $$.

 

If I’m signing up for a pack strike though there has to be more of plan to it. A strike isn’t a solution. It’s one of the final escalations to force the process of finding a solution to begin.

 

So what can we do? Throw out ideas

 

-Here’s one to add on top of a pack strike. Game time strike. Agree to periods none of us will log on.

 

-we could do similar agreements amongst ourselves with EA produced content on other platforms and social media

I am with you bro, movement has to be bigger somehow. maybe making other modes more popular in the game something we can do ? like playing superstar more and ditching mut for a bit.  But I don't know how effect that would be.

Same discussion every year, as EA says to you guys, “LOL…yawn”