Why 3-4 Odd over other 3-4 base formations?

Title. Everyone seems to swear by the 3-4 odd, and I've come across something saying that people with basically god squads can abuse a glitch where they can get CBs subbed in at every LB spot or whatever, and has something to do with CBs matching OVR of offensive players and some other elaborate crap and I'm not really interested in doing that. Otherwise I've not really found any answers and it looks to me like the relative concepts of the plays still apply all the same whether 3-4 odd, under, over or whatever else. 3-4 bear is a bit different though haha. Any thoughts here?

Yeah there is a glitch going on where you can but cb's at the mlb spots. Crazy pressure from that formation.

markie20 said:

Yeah there is a glitch going on where you can but cb's at the mlb spots. Crazy pressure from that formation.

So the sole reason for the 3-4 odd vs 3-4 over, under etc is to abuse a glitch?

antitwisted said:

So the sole reason for the 3-4 odd vs 3-4 over, under etc is to abuse a glitch?

It could be. I don't know about the glitch so I can't say for sure. It could also be something like the subtle differences in alignment lead to massive differences in the amount of pressure you can get. It's like how you can set the TE to pass block in gun bunch offset but you can't in gun bunch.(Might have bunches mixed up but the point is still the same)

A glitch could definitely be a big enough reason for one formation to be used over another

Breakluna said:

It could be. I don't know about the glitch so I can't say for sure. It could also be something like the subtle differences in alignment lead to massive differences in the amount of pressure you can get. It's like how you can set the TE to pass block in gun bunch offset but you can't in gun bunch.(Might have bunches mixed up but the point is still the same)

A glitch could definitely be a big enough reason for one formation to be used over another

Yeah that makes sense. Wish I knew how to look for stuff like that. The reason I ask is I'm strongly contemplating going with the ravens playbook, as it has the 3-3 odd and 3-3 nickel cub, and you can sub in safeties at LBs in the 3-3 odd like you can in the nickel 3-3 normal then audible over. And personally, I prefer the nickel 3-3 odd over the nickel 3-3 normal because I just find the 3-3 normal kind of well, odd to work with, honestly. I don't like the 3 on top of 3 thing and find the run fits awkward but I'm probably just not quite getting it. I know you can shift your LBs over but that's one additional adjustment I'd rather not have to make. I like the 3-3 odd a lot though and think it's an underrated formation, and I like to be a little unconventional anyway and give people something they don't see every day. However, ravens playbook does NOT have the 3-4 odd... I'm newb as hell though so if I'm wrong I hope I get roasted or whatever.

antitwisted said:

Title. Everyone seems to swear by the 3-4 odd, and I've come across something saying that people with basically god squads can abuse a glitch where they can get CBs subbed in at every LB spot or whatever, and has something to do with CBs matching OVR of offensive players and some other elaborate crap and I'm not really interested in doing that. Otherwise I've not really found any answers and it looks to me like the relative concepts of the plays still apply all the same whether 3-4 odd, under, over or whatever else. 3-4 bear is a bit different though haha. Any thoughts here?

I've run 3-4 Odd - Cover 4 Drop as my "game start" defense for about 4 years now.  I don't know of any glitches to get CBs or Safeties into the four linebacker slots... in fact that's the main drawback of 3-4 Odd is that you have so many linebackers on the field.  

But in my defense, three of my LBs are pass rushing on almost every play... and the other is my user (so I must have Lurker on him... currently BWagz).  So coverage or jumping just isn't important and I can tolerate all these LBs.  It's a pretty good run defense... but a very good pass rush and I'd say a quarter of my opponents just don't know how to handle the pressure (at least for a drive or two).  Once they show they can... it's time to move to my Big Nickel Over G scheme... and if they can handle that, then I'm moving to 3-3 Cub with either a double mable, single mable or heavy pressure.

The reason I use 3-4 Odd and not something else is simply because it has symmetrical Cover 4 Drop... Cover 3 Sky... Cover 2 Hard Flat... and the other 3-4's in my Raiders book don't.

antitwisted said:

Yeah that makes sense. Wish I knew how to look for stuff like that. The reason I ask is I'm strongly contemplating going with the ravens playbook, as it has the 3-3 odd and 3-3 nickel cub, and you can sub in safeties at LBs in the 3-3 odd like you can in the nickel 3-3 normal then audible over. And personally, I prefer the nickel 3-3 odd over the nickel 3-3 normal because I just find the 3-3 normal kind of well, odd to work with, honestly. I don't like the 3 on top of 3 thing and find the run fits awkward but I'm probably just not quite getting it. I know you can shift your LBs over but that's one additional adjustment I'd rather not have to make. I like the 3-3 odd a lot though and think it's an underrated formation, and I like to be a little unconventional anyway and give people something they don't see every day. However, ravens playbook does NOT have the 3-4 odd... I'm newb as hell though so if I'm wrong I hope I get roasted or whatever.

Being able to find stuff like that is a skill. I know I'm not at that level. I think being able to do that is one of the things that separate the best madden players from the good ones. 

You just gotta find what works best for you whether that's running meta plays or something no one else runs.

If you want 3-4 odd you might want to check out the raiders or vikings playbook. They have it along with nickel 3-3 odd and nickel 3-3 cub according to huddle.gg playbook finder. Not sure if it will have everything you need though

Breakluna said:

Being able to find stuff like that is a skill. I know I'm not at that level. I think being able to do that is one of the things that separate the best madden players from the good ones. 

You just gotta find what works best for you whether that's running meta plays or something no one else runs.

If you want 3-4 odd you might want to check out the raiders or vikings playbook. They have it along with nickel 3-3 odd and nickel 3-3 cub according to huddle.gg playbook finder. Not sure if it will have everything you need though

Oh I know, and I am looking into those as well for that reason but I was also interested in playing with the quarter overload formation because only the ravens have that and in my experience that legit means it's good because EA doesn't want those things wrecking the game so they include them in only one or two spots. I'm guessing it won't be amazing but I haven't heard of anyone else running this so I'm gonna see if I can stumble into something here.

antitwisted said:

Oh I know, and I am looking into those as well for that reason but I was also interested in playing with the quarter overload formation because only the ravens have that and in my experience that legit means it's good because EA doesn't want those things wrecking the game so they include them in only one or two spots. I'm guessing it won't be amazing but I haven't heard of anyone else running this so I'm gonna see if I can stumble into something here.

Good luck man hope it works out for you

Breakluna said:

Good luck man hope it works out for you

Haha, initial assessment of quarter overload is that it's total garbage. Not much else to say about it. If you encounter it you just simply run the ball.

antitwisted said:

Haha, initial assessment of quarter overload is that it's total garbage. Not much else to say about it. If you encounter it you just simply run the ball.

Well at least we both learned something about quarter overload.