as long as they changed some code yeah. IMO abilities should essentially act like a ratings booster , bringing route running or catching to 99. Not a guaranteed catch or a guaranteed knockout. It should be based on ratings between matchups for the most part. The fact that I need SFL or PLE is a travesty.
GenosBurner said:hell yeah i wish it went back to 3 super juiced players on each side
Okay but imagine quadfather etc like that. We don’t need that lol
It would absolutely make a difference. I honestly would rather it goes back to Madden 09. No abilities, just straight-up football. People aren't tactical when they play with abilities like "freight train" or other bullshit. If there were no abilities, half of the people wouldn't know what to do in an actual game where schemes and thinking actually apply. I love the game but its just ridiculous at this point
QB283 said:Yes. They need to program it like real football. A couple points I'd like to make:
1. QBs shouldn't need SFL/PLE in order to be usable. Just program the card so it plays like an NFL QB. They should play as if they have these abilities anyway. As for something like Gunslinger, it shouldn't be necessary.
2. Organic pass rush. No abilities. Shouldn't need ET and DON in order to generate pressure. Pressure should be determined by 1 on 1 matchups and personnel. If I'm blitzing 8 players then I should get pressure but WRs should be wide open. If I rush only 3 or 4 the amount of pressure should be lower, except in the case where an edge rusher is not double teamed and is vastly superior in ratings to the lineman.
1000000% agree with ur first point qbs should be able to throw the ball fast and not float the ball. gunslinger could be like a slight boost to the speed of the ball and throw release just as a tad boost.
I think it would be awesome if they did away with the X-factors and abilities. They make the game too arcade like and unrealistic. Especially the KOs where the DB gets a pinky on the receiver at the last second, so he decides to drop the pass. If they could just make the players play according to their ratings, instead of relying on abilities, it would be a much better game to play. The game is too imbalanced and the abilities contribute to too much cheese you have face every game. You should be rewarded for making the right play call and the right read, and not because you have the OP mix of abilities.
you shouldn't be able to have all 11 players on offense and defense with abilities to make them better and specific abilities should just be built into players like SFL/PLE and pick artist it is crazy that EA literally gives every player 0 ap pick artist when they could just program the game to make defensive players catch interception at a fair rate. IMO I like madden 20´s ability system the best 3 players with xfator/abilites you could maybe make it like 5 or a cap at each position but id rather be able to pick who gets it myself. freight train and abilities like that are super dumb they make the game so much worse. the oline shouldn't need abilities they should just block maybe bring a version of protective back just for lineman or something and dline should get some abilities to make them better. KO are stupid they should just make you close on the ball better and the CBS and wr can have a fair contest programmed into them and abilities to make them catch the ball or not maybe some post flag or something.
bigmeow said:you shouldn't be able to have all 11 players on offense and defense with abilities to make them better and specific abilities should just be built into players like SFL/PLE and pick artist it is crazy that EA literally gives every player 0 ap pick artist when they could just program the game to make defensive players catch interception at a fair rate. IMO I like madden 20´s ability system the best 3 players with xfator/abilites you could maybe make it like 5 or a cap at each position but id rather be able to pick who gets it myself. freight train and abilities like that are super dumb they make the game so much worse. the oline shouldn't need abilities they should just block maybe bring a version of protective back just for lineman or something and dline should get some abilities to make them better. KO are stupid they should just make you close on the ball better and the CBS and wr can have a fair contest programmed into them and abilities to make them catch the ball or not maybe some post flag or something.
i am all for abilities though they make the game more fun they just shouldn't be overpowered and all abilities should have counters but the counters should all be matched evenly to make a fair atmosphere of game play
SixPackStl said:Absolutely. Abilities, X-Factors and all of the OOP cards have turned this game into a joke. It's not real football.
OOP cards are fun and the have always used them but they shouldn't have so many like mel blount should never have a right tackle card but safety/corner calvin is a staple in madden as well as wr dieon players like that should get them no matter what but these random oop are stupid
It’s absolutely insane how much the majority of players can’t stand abilities and xfactors yet madden continues with them. And if anything makes it worse every year by making so many discounted abilities
itscush2push said:For some people they need the Abilities to win a game, for others they don't.
EA should also provide Ability free modes for Mut Champs, Squads, and H2H.
People who want abilities can still play with them and those who don't can play with their teams against others who also don't.
so true that is exactly what should happen..
I prefer to play with no AP and no x factors but also love to experiment with my friends Sunday was a crazy one no running or blizing allowed defense must Rush 3 or four lineman only abilities allowed was pass lead elite and acrobat.
bigmeow said:OOP cards are fun and the have always used them but they shouldn't have so many like mel blount should never have a right tackle card but safety/corner calvin is a staple in madden as well as wr dieon players like that should get them no matter what but these random oop are stupid
There's too many random OOP cards. I get they're meant to be fun, but I'd rather see OOP cards largely be for players who actually lined up and played in other positions. Deion at WR makes perfect sense because he actually did it in the NFL. Or William Perry lining up as a FB, or even JJ Watt lining up at TE for some goal line plays. Those are cool, but I'm not a huge fan when they put a player in a random position just because it's going to sell packs for EA.
No, They add an additional customization to your team. Building my roster is much more fun with them opposed to just looking at spreadsheets of numbers etc. However, they need SIGNIFICANT balancing. Some are much to strong and some are completely worthless. Every ability should be viable, but no ability should completely win or disable another ability.
For example, secure protector is WAY to strong. it counters everything, it makes Dlinemen abilities basically useless. However, Edge threat is wayyyy overpowered if the opponent doesn’t have secure protector or edge protector. They need to find a happy medium where they both can exist, or just remove them and replace them with something else.
they just need to make linebackers animate right and yeah
YESSS I want to be able to play with my favourite players without automatically losing because of a player that nobody knows just because of stacked abilities
Yes they killed their own game. Knockouts, and fright train. just like last year with the non stop qbs running. 3 plays everyone uses on offense because people think that’s what football is. Gun tight on repeat aren’t yall bored yet? I’m glad I stopped giving them money long time ago. How Many big glitches this year giving out millions? Make rights from stealing peoples money saying things are in packs when they’re not. Truly this game madden would piss on it. Watching the mcs is like watching paint dry let’s see gun tight and gun bunch on repeat. Let’s see who can out tight each other. they put in an ability film study and it makes you desync it’s truly just a waste of time. just like me writing This because it won’t change.