Your reaction if you see Ranked Ed Reed in your opponents top 3?

Are you quitting?

I think the people who match up against them want to play them tbh.  Us lowly serfs aren't going to get matched vs top 100s

Yeah, I doubt i (or most) would match up with them.

I would stay long enough for them to validate my prejudice that only money players and glitchers can earn those cards. I might even play the game out in its entirety if they aren't too gratuitous with the cheese.

phatalerror said:

I would stay long enough for them to validate my prejudice that only money players and glitchers can earn those cards. I might even play the game out in its entirety if they aren't too gratuitous with the cheese.

tell me you have never played a pro without telling me.  the top 100 are really good, most will counter any glitch and definitely don't need them to beat the other 99.9 percent of us

nitmatrix said:

tell me you have never played a pro without telling me.  the top 100 are really good, most will counter any glitch and definitely don't need them to beat the other 99.9 percent of us

I wouldn't know if I had, as practically everyone in competitive modes cheeses, but seeing as the pros cheese in MCS, what exactly are you trying to say? That Day Zero Glitches are superior to what everyone is copying that night? Duh.

No need to insult me.

The bottom line is that with so much on the line, you cannot be top 100 without outglitching your opponents. That's like asking someone in the military to scale down their weaponry and armor to match up fairly with the grunts on the other side of the line. Not going to happen. And if you really think I'm wrong, you're about as naïve as homo sapiens is built.

phatalerror said:

I wouldn't know if I had, as practically everyone in competitive modes cheeses, but seeing as the pros cheese in MCS, what exactly are you trying to say? That Day Zero Glitches are superior to what everyone is copying that night? Duh.

No need to insult me.

The bottom line is that with so much on the line, you cannot be top 100 without outglitching your opponents. That's like asking someone in the military to scale down their weaponry and armor to match up fairly with the grunts on the other side of the line. Not going to happen. And if you really think I'm wrong, you're about as naïve as homo sapiens is built.

didnt insult you, just have played enough of these guys to know that normal glitches dont work.  

i dont consider finding effective route combos and setting up confusing zones and blitzes  to be glitching, but i am in the minority here  

also, are not is

phatalerror said:

I wouldn't know if I had, as practically everyone in competitive modes cheeses, but seeing as the pros cheese in MCS, what exactly are you trying to say? That Day Zero Glitches are superior to what everyone is copying that night? Duh.

No need to insult me.

The bottom line is that with so much on the line, you cannot be top 100 without outglitching your opponents. That's like asking someone in the military to scale down their weaponry and armor to match up fairly with the grunts on the other side of the line. Not going to happen. And if you really think I'm wrong, you're about as naïve as homo sapiens is built.

You sound miserable. I think its great to realize that good route combos are not glitching

phatalerror said:

I wouldn't know if I had, as practically everyone in competitive modes cheeses, but seeing as the pros cheese in MCS, what exactly are you trying to say? That Day Zero Glitches are superior to what everyone is copying that night? Duh.

No need to insult me.

The bottom line is that with so much on the line, you cannot be top 100 without outglitching your opponents. That's like asking someone in the military to scale down their weaponry and armor to match up fairly with the grunts on the other side of the line. Not going to happen. And if you really think I'm wrong, you're about as naïve as homo sapiens is built.

Yeah idk if I agree cuz when I watch MCS they never be using glitches. They’re just better than us🤷🏼‍♂️😭. But I’ve never played a top 100 player…

nchen3 said:

You sound miserable. I think its great to realize that good route combos are not glitching

what about his response sounded miserable? i don’t agree w his comments but you’re taking personal shots over a video game comment.

Probably the same as every online game I play 

”well I’m probably going to get destroyed” 

I am not very good.

Lol there is a guy ranked 96th with 107 wins and 1 loss

nitmatrix said:

didnt insult you, just have played enough of these guys to know that normal glitches dont work.  

i dont consider finding effective route combos and setting up confusing zones and blitzes  to be glitching, but i am in the minority here  

also, are not is

Normally I don't let myself get dragged into grammar battles, as I find them one-sided and mundane, and usually the product of an ordinary lack of proofreading in a non-mission-critical internet forum.

[nerd]You may want to research "homo sapiens". But here's what I found:

"In Latin the word sapiens is strictly singular, its plural form being sapientes...."

You might have done well in English grammar, but you need to also recognize foreign word forms to be a reliable proofreader.[/nerd]

As for the more relevant issue here, effective route combos are fundamental to football. Cornerbacks who get routinely get lost covering zig routes and safeties that routinely abandon their deep coverage responsibilities for route runners already engaged by other defenders in their respective zones are (again) marks of players that don't make it in the league. If a guy has AWR of 22, fine, let him be in the wrong place sometimes. I get sick of all of the nonsense that the AI lets happen because I was trying to guard against one kind of cheese, and my opponent merely threw rock instead of paper. Spamming route combos that are legitimate in their own way doesn't change the fact that they're not being spammed because they're effective in the NFL in singular instances. Spamming route combos on the real-life gridiron will result in interceptions and fired offensive coordinators. But in MCS, that can get you tens of thousands of dollars, or more. The same applies to any defensive concept. Any circumstance that consistently renders an offensive or defensive player 'confused' and functionally worthless is something to be fixed.

I understand very generally that anyone complaining about Mid Blitz or Double Mug orTrips or stretch runs or RPO's are complaining about the constant struggle in getting eleven players to do effectively what they are supposed to do. I shouldn't have to learn Madden's idiosyncrasies so I can adapt football knowledge to function correctly within the framework of Madden. It should just work. If it doesn't, it's simply not a football simulation. And I really don't understand why anyone would begin to defend a position so logically indefensible.

phatalerror said:

Normally I don't let myself get dragged into grammar battles, as I find them one-sided and mundane, and usually the product of an ordinary lack of proofreading in a non-mission-critical internet forum.

[nerd]You may want to research "homo sapiens". But here's what I found:

"In Latin the word sapiens is strictly singular, its plural form being sapientes...."

You might have done well in English grammar, but you need to also recognize foreign word forms to be a reliable proofreader.[/nerd]

As for the more relevant issue here, effective route combos are fundamental to football. Cornerbacks who get routinely get lost covering zig routes and safeties that routinely abandon their deep coverage responsibilities for route runners already engaged by other defenders in their respective zones are (again) marks of players that don't make it in the league. If a guy has AWR of 22, fine, let him be in the wrong place sometimes. I get sick of all of the nonsense that the AI lets happen because I was trying to guard against one kind of cheese, and my opponent merely threw rock instead of paper. Spamming route combos that are legitimate in their own way doesn't change the fact that they're not being spammed because they're effective in the NFL in singular instances. Spamming route combos on the real-life gridiron will result in interceptions and fired offensive coordinators. But in MCS, that can get you tens of thousands of dollars, or more. The same applies to any defensive concept. Any circumstance that consistently renders an offensive or defensive player 'confused' and functionally worthless is something to be fixed.

I understand very generally that anyone complaining about Mid Blitz or Double Mug orTrips or stretch runs or RPO's are complaining about the constant struggle in getting eleven players to do effectively what they are supposed to do. I shouldn't have to learn Madden's idiosyncrasies so I can adapt football knowledge to function correctly within the framework of Madden. It should just work. If it doesn't, it's simply not a football simulation. And I really don't understand why anyone would begin to defend a position so logically indefensible.

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