How we feelin' about the state of Defense in MUT ?

I've grinded out my games for the 89 Hyatt and have no desire to keep playing because the higher you get, its basically who gets ball last, wins. 
Anybody who's not a vegetable can score every possession. 
Zone defense is completely dead and can be cut up like a fine piece of french cheese even with multiple 90 ZCV guys on the field. 
You either have the cards to run man and force people to make quick decision by throwing the sink at them a lot or you just hope for someone being bad enough to to be able to read zone defenses. But even if they cant' you can literally throw at guys in zone and they get hit in the head but wont pick the ball off. AI recognizing the ball is terrible.
I've seen players who get thrown at, stop, pick artist activates and they just catch air and get run by for a TD. Even when usering perfectly, balls get dropped or the catch animations dont even get triggered because your players AI does not recognize the ball. 

If they want to patch every blitz that turns meta, I'm fine with that but then at least have the basics work. If zones are as bad as they are, buff blocksheds and pass rush in general, its non-existent. You can send 5 of the best DL cards in the game against a bnd O-line from 4 weeks ago and its just pure randomness. If pass rushing is as bad as it is, have zones play more intelligently. In their current state, you can bomb Cov 3 + Match, Cov 4 + Match, Cover 2 man,  Cov 2 from every play with hot routes alone. 

This aint it if you ask me

This entire game sucks and the problem with the cheese defenses is they are too effective so everyone runs the same junk. This is a bad game

The sad thing is before this most recent patch zone defense was actually playing really well. It wasn't perfect, but it was very solid. I noticed it in the last draft event when my base players would actually play shit the way they should. Whatever they did in the last patch killed zone logic and it's basically as bad, if not worse, than it was at launch. I can't imagine trying to grind ranked in this current state of the game.

PBateman said:

I've grinded out my games for the 89 Hyatt and have no desire to keep playing because the higher you get, its basically who gets ball last, wins. 
Anybody who's not a vegetable can score every possession. 
Zone defense is completely dead and can be cut up like a fine piece of french cheese even with multiple 90 ZCV guys on the field. 
You either have the cards to run man and force people to make quick decision by throwing the sink at them a lot or you just hope for someone being bad enough to to be able to read zone defenses. But even if they cant' you can literally throw at guys in zone and they get hit in the head but wont pick the ball off. AI recognizing the ball is terrible.
I've seen players who get thrown at, stop, pick artist activates and they just catch air and get run by for a TD. Even when usering perfectly, balls get dropped or the catch animations dont even get triggered because your players AI does not recognize the ball. 

If they want to patch every blitz that turns meta, I'm fine with that but then at least have the basics work. If zones are as bad as they are, buff blocksheds and pass rush in general, its non-existent. You can send 5 of the best DL cards in the game against a bnd O-line from 4 weeks ago and its just pure randomness. If pass rushing is as bad as it is, have zones play more intelligently. In their current state, you can bomb Cov 3 + Match, Cov 4 + Match, Cover 2 man,  Cov 2 from every play with hot routes alone. 

This aint it if you ask me

Preach brother I 1000 percent agree. This last patch just killed what lil D we had. Not even talking about some of the dumb blitzes that walked in. It somehow made zones even worse than what they were.

NickyRozay said:

The sad thing is before this most recent patch zone defense was actually playing really well. It wasn't perfect, but it was very solid. I noticed it in the last draft event when my base players would actually play shit the way they should. Whatever they did in the last patch killed zone logic and it's basically as bad, if not worse, than it was at launch. I can't imagine trying to grind ranked in this current state of the game.

Right on. Basic zones aren't reacting now. The game suks in it's current state, EA is just sad. We need a new patch like yesterday.

they probably dumbed down zones to introduce discounted zone kos soon. i felt the same way about ball speed getting slowed down with the previous patch as we started getting gun slinger quarterbacks.

I've been playing both the current gen and old gen versions of the game... and in my opinion, the current gen version is just not enjoyable.  After grinding through two seasons... I think I'm done with it.

Anyone who says gameplay is better on current gen is lying to themselves.

You all should start a movement to head back to old gen where it's actually fun to play defense.

A patch won't help this game. The engine needs to be nuked and rebuilt from scratch. So many broken things that have never been fixed over the years and it gets worse and worse every year. Promos suck too along with the "rewards". Give me my solos and let me pick my championat the end and move on, stop with the passes and all this other stuff.

Defense this year is literally AIDS.

Not sure if it is worse than the escape artist year, but it's pretty bad. 

The worst players can actually score by blindly throwing the ball into coverage and running auto-motion/rpos.  Makes the skill gap much less when everyone can score.

I love Madden, but it's beyond frustrating playing close games against players who have no clue how to play.

Best Defense rn is a good 2pt play

Zone defense has been difficult for EA to code. Move the slider one way, they don't move, the other way, they are psychic.

The way EA has combatted it was through KOs... The knock out but more importantly, the reaction based affect on each ability. They honestly need to just create an ability that adds better reactions while in zone coverage (man has this with OSA and the shades). That would solve a tone of issues.

GGerz said:

Zone defense has been difficult for EA to code. Move the slider one way, they don't move, the other way, they are psychic.

The way EA has combatted it was through KOs... The knock out but more importantly, the reaction based affect on each ability. They honestly need to just create an ability that adds better reactions while in zone coverage (man has this with OSA and the shades). That would solve a tone of issues.

Why should better reactions in zone coverage be an ability that you have to put on players ? Then you have a guy with the ability who doesn't get thrown in the head or just stands still with opponent and ball entering his zone but the other guys no matter which threshold they meet are still vegetables out there? 
Nah

Here’s how bad zone coverage are. I played a guy he comes out gun Trey formation he motion one of his WR to the other side. The TE on the single side is on a streak when he motions his wr to the other side his TE will be left uncovered.

Game is so bad h2h is unplayable unless you enjoy throwing your controller in anger