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twhite619 said:

You guys are completely wrong about the ability to play defense. I have played about 200 H2H season games and only give up 9.8 pts per game. The difference in this mut is you can't load all your players with the cheesy KO abilities like you could in mut 23. When you call the same community defenses as all you bums do, people that you play know how to beat those 2 or 3 defensive calls that you use. Suggestion, have more variety on defense, change up your looks, be able to adjust to your opponent, have multiple ways to  do the same thing. This is called football. Stop trying to copy what you see in youtube videos.

Yet every MCS tournament game has about 80 points scored. You think these guys aren't good enough to know how to play defense properly?

Gimme a break. And most H2h games don't go past a qtr or 2.  So even if you are giving up 9.8 PPG (I'd like to see that screenshot actually), Average that over 4 quarters and that's 40 PPG

Those of us who know...who've played this game for a long time....who know the ins and outs and have experience here....we understand exactly what EA did this year to entice anyone to play the game. For a long time it was just DDA....momentum, etc...it gave anyone the  chance to win from time to time. This is EA's new method of evening out gameplay between people of different skill  levels

CTOUGH23 said:

First off, I conceded in my post that most of us would agree the loop blitzes and such shouldn't be in the game didn't I?  Yep, so not sure why you zoned in on that?

Second, you don't know of any madden situations on offense like that?  How bout how the RPO glitches out the adaptive run D AI this year?  Or maybe we should talk about quite possibly the worst pursuit angles of all time in madden by defenders?  Or what about the juke you can repeatedly spam that turns drags into td's?  None of these things have struck you as alarming huh...???

Finally, the 14 year old example was just that...an example.  Fact is they've significantly dumbed down this game.  It's no longer a football game, it's how you can stop what someone else is doing, which generally has nothing to do with football it has to do with AI manipulation or their favorite Youtuber.  Most people who call D don't even know why they're calling it from a football perspective (see most D's are called to stop something specific), they just know it "works."

Replying to your bottom paragraph specifically, that's how it's always been. Also I'm pretty sure my win rate against people that spam RPOs all game is really high. I'm not gonna say I haven't lost to it at all, but it's pretty rare. 

I'm not sitting here trying to say the game is perfect or anything. The whole reason I mentioned the blitzes again is because that was a blatant exploit but bro was complaining about it being patched. Cheese should obviously be limited as much as possible on both sides of the ball. The loop blitzes were completely game breaking though, that's why they were taken out. They weren't taken out to give noobs a better experience (that just sounds silly af tbh).

Ducati0307 said:

I think EA absolutely intended that.

I absolutely agree. EA has been trying to figure out how to get less skilled players more involved in the game for years in order to get their in game purchases up.....in varying ways.

Instead of what they should do if they want every level of player immersed, which is use a better matchmaking algorithm (the ELO they use is either broken or they're not really using it), have separate levels of comp play (not just All Madden seasons, but other options)

Terryfying said:

Replying to your bottom paragraph specifically, that's how it's always been. Also I'm pretty sure my win rate against people that spam RPOs all game is really high. I'm not gonna say I haven't lost to it at all, but it's pretty rare. 

I'm not sitting here trying to say the game is perfect or anything. The whole reason I mentioned the blitzes again is because that was a blatant exploit but bro was complaining about it being patched. Cheese should obviously be limited as much as possible on both sides of the ball. The loop blitzes were completely game breaking though, that's why they were taken out. They weren't taken out to give noobs a better experience (that just sounds silly af tbh).

As someone who is a shareholder of EA, who has played Madden since 1988, has  played alongside guys like Problem (when I was younger and had better hand-eye LOL), I will tell you why EA took out loop blitzes and the like.....

Because they are trying what professional sports is trying.....increase offense, increase point scored - from a marketing standpoint, defense is boring and doesn't sell. There's no great mystery here. It's why MLB instituted so many of the rules that it has over the past few years. Look at the NFL - a defender can't sneeze on an offensive player without being flagged......Offense and scoring SELLS.

It was awesome on Kurt Warner, too bad his release wasn’t that good

Martyr1968 said:

As someone who is a shareholder of EA, who has played Madden since 1988, has  played alongside guys like Problem (when I was younger and had better hand-eye LOL), I will tell you why EA took out loop blitzes and the like.....

Because they are trying what professional sports is trying.....increase offense, increase point scored - from a marketing standpoint, defense is boring and doesn't sell. There's no great mystery here. It's why MLB instituted so many of the rules that it has over the past few years. Look at the NFL - a defender can't sneeze on an offensive player without being flagged......Offense and scoring SELLS.

Hey grandpa, I like your new PFP! 

But thats the exact thing you nailed on the head. D is boring but not for the right reasons, its the you cant kill people anymore with insane tackles and flying catches anymore. You dont do a basic ass wrap tackle, youre getting flagged, especially on QBs. 

Imagine the Legion of Boom, The 70s Steelers, the 85 Bears... Hell even the most recent 2002 Ravens or 07-09 Steelers. They would get flagged for everything.

jimshredder said:

How many of those are actually full games

Most opponents will quit if they turnover 1 time, giving you 0 pts allowed, but in reality not a full game

in games that i lose and give up 28 because ive smoked to much weed that also is factored in the ppg.

Terryfying said:

Replying to your bottom paragraph specifically, that's how it's always been. Also I'm pretty sure my win rate against people that spam RPOs all game is really high. I'm not gonna say I haven't lost to it at all, but it's pretty rare. 

I'm not sitting here trying to say the game is perfect or anything. The whole reason I mentioned the blitzes again is because that was a blatant exploit but bro was complaining about it being patched. Cheese should obviously be limited as much as possible on both sides of the ball. The loop blitzes were completely game breaking though, that's why they were taken out. They weren't taken out to give noobs a better experience (that just sounds silly af tbh).

Silly?  So you don't think that EA's primary motivator as a publicly traded company is to change things that bring more revenue in vs changing it for people already paying in the first place?  Ok LOL.  Do you believe this because in the past EA has been so interested in changing the game for the better for us regulars?  I've been playing since 13 and I don't ever recall thinking that haha!

kaotikords said:

Hey grandpa, I like your new PFP! 

But thats the exact thing you nailed on the head. D is boring but not for the right reasons, its the you cant kill people anymore with insane tackles and flying catches anymore. You dont do a basic ass wrap tackle, youre getting flagged, especially on QBs. 

Imagine the Legion of Boom, The 70s Steelers, the 85 Bears... Hell even the most recent 2002 Ravens or 07-09 Steelers. They would get flagged for everything.

Thanks! That was my custom made icon from the website that shall not be named LOL before I found this awesome place!

But totally agreed. Some of the greats , the greatest plays, greatest defenses, would not exist if these ticky tack rules were in place then.

It's all about sponsors, marketing, etc these days. MLB changed the composition of baseballs for crying out loud because not enough HRs were being hit.

Martyr1968 said:

Yet every MCS tournament game has about 80 points scored. You think these guys aren't good enough to know how to play defense properly?

Gimme a break. And most H2h games don't go past a qtr or 2.  So even if you are giving up 9.8 PPG (I'd like to see that screenshot actually), Average that over 4 quarters and that's 40 PPG

Those of us who know...who've played this game for a long time....who know the ins and outs and have experience here....we understand exactly what EA did this year to entice anyone to play the game. For a long time it was just DDA....momentum, etc...it gave anyone the  chance to win from time to time. This is EA's new method of evening out gameplay between people of different skill  levels

They werent last tournament.  The patch had just came out and they were still trying to run 335 and dollar as an all purpose D.  You guys are sooo lost without youtube spelling out the game for you lol.  Its made the game so much better since they patched all yalls BS defenses.

Martyr1968 said:

Thanks! That was my custom made icon from the website that shall not be named LOL before I found this awesome place!

But totally agreed. Some of the greats , the greatest plays, greatest defenses, would not exist if these ticky tack rules were in place then.

It's all about sponsors, marketing, etc these days. MLB changed the composition of baseballs for crying out loud because not enough HRs were being hit.

Yep its all about marking and making money than actually caring about the game for sure. Fuck look at the Pfizer dating icons right now Taylor and Kelce, you dont hear anything but them pushing shit and in the game itself the camera is always on them when they can. 

MLB juiced the balls for out of country games and to hit more HR. Now pitchers only go like 4 innings unless theyre going for a no no or something.

NBA I never watch so I cant say anything there but it seems like more drama and flop city

NHL never gets the spot light unless something tragic happens

NateDawg231 said:

They werent last tournament.  The patch had just came out and they were still trying to run 335 and dollar as an all purpose D.  You guys are sooo lost without youtube spelling out the game for you lol.  Its made the game so much better since they patched all yalls BS defenses.

Right. You have a handful of posts here, and guys like me that have played this game for 25 years , and played with some of the best madden players of all time - we know nothing. We are lost.

I don't give a crap about YouTubers. Have never used a YT scheme...but I certainly learned from guys like Eric (Problem) Wright , Spoto, Joke, etc....and a lot of guys who always were top dog in H2h that didn;t play in the MCS. I've run squads with top 10 guys. I'm more casual now that I am older but I know this game and it's history better than most

Martyr1968 said:

Right. You have a handful of posts here, and guys like me that have played this game for 25 years , and played with some of the best madden players of all time - we know nothing. We are lost.

I don't give a crap about YouTubers. Have never used a YT scheme...but I certainly learned from guys like Eric (Problem) Wright , Spoto, Joke, etc....and a lot of guys who always were top dog in H2h that didn;t play in the MCS. I've run squads with top 10 guys. I'm more casual now that I am older but I know this game and it's history better than most

I had to start posting after seeing so many cry babies on here.  Nobody can accept that they might just be trash at the game

NateDawg231 said:

I had to start posting after seeing so many cry babies on here.  Nobody can accept that they might just be trash at the game

And you can't accept that you're just a troll, so  what's worse?